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Casey Handmer

@casey-handmer · 76 positions · 2 changes of mind

Physicist, formerly at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, and founder of Terraform Industries, which is building plant to make synthetic natural gas from sunlight and air. Writes about energy, space and manufacturing at caseyhandmer.wordpress.com.

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  1. Starship promises a near future with launch costs to LEO of perhaps $100/kg.

    How to build a lunar mass drivercaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 1st of 2 in this piece

  2. At even $500/kg, launch cost is only 5% of the total satellite deployment cost, so a lunar mass driver is unlikely to drastically improve the economics of space-based AI, by reducing launch costs.

    How to build a lunar mass drivercaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 2nd of 2 in this piece

  3. 3 months earlier
  4. The economics of orbital “datacenters” or essentially glorified Starlink satellites with a bunch of GPUs attached are likely to be even better than Starlink.

    Space AI: I guess we’re doing Moon factories nowcaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 2nd of 3 in this piece

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  5. Starship can lift orbital power generation to about 100 GW with perhaps 10,000 launches per year, or about one per hour.

    Space AI: I guess we’re doing Moon factories nowcaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 3rd of 3 in this piece

  6. 2 months earlier
  7. Do we need to drastically expand the grid in order to metabolize renewables? No.

    Energy Predictions 2025caseyhandmer.wordpress.com 1st of 6 in this piece

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  8. On the flip side, these captive solar power plants will be curtailing approximately 75% of their generated power and will be able to provide net power on all but a few days per year.

    Energy Predictions 2025caseyhandmer.wordpress.com 2nd of 6 in this piece

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  9. Storing electricity for months is economically difficult, but storing heat is easy.

    Energy Predictions 2025caseyhandmer.wordpress.com 3rd of 6 in this piece

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  10. While heat pumps can achieve higher efficiency, consumer uptake has been much lower than expected because fundamentally, a heat pump is a 20 year bet on future power prices that most homeowners are unwilling to make.

    Energy Predictions 2025caseyhandmer.wordpress.com 4th of 6 in this piece

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  11. By 2045, natural gas will be used as LNG primarily for high performance supersonic aviation, shipping, and industrial heat.

    Energy Predictions 2025caseyhandmer.wordpress.com 5th of 6 in this piece

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  12. The only highly populated industrial country unable to trivially meet its electricity and synthetic fuel needs with solar alone is the United Kingdom, due primarily to a high population density and high latitude.

    Energy Predictions 2025caseyhandmer.wordpress.com 6th of 6 in this piece

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  13. 5 weeks earlier
  14. I am far from certain that NASA can regain anything like the vigor necessary to respond decisively to the Chinese threat, but I am determined that the free people of Earth not live under a Red Moon

    NASA’s Orion Space Capsule Is Flaming Garbagecaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 1st of 4 in this piece

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  15. Even for $5.2b per launch, Orion is so overweight that there does not exist a booster nor an upper stage that can launch it to Low Lunar Orbit and return it to Earth.

    NASA’s Orion Space Capsule Is Flaming Garbagecaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 2nd of 4 in this piece

  16. It’s also a capsule to nowhere, designed without reference to any mission architecture that resembles our actual solar system.

    NASA’s Orion Space Capsule Is Flaming Garbagecaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 3rd of 4 in this piece

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  17. The updated heat shield design, after more than 14 years of development, had performed even worse.

    NASA’s Orion Space Capsule Is Flaming Garbagecaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 4th of 4 in this piece

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  18. 7 weeks earlier
  19. something like 90% of the complexity and cost of MSR is driven by a requirement that the samples “break the chain” on the way home

    How to get samples back from Marscaseyhandmer.wordpress.com

  20. 4 weeks earlier
  21. I would never like hold up a flag saying I'm really good at building highspeed trains. Like that is just a sign that you're really bad at capital allocation.
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    China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 1st of 24 in this recording

  22. China is surrounded by 15 countries who are mostly hostile to it, right? with no good like mountain ranges or rivers or anything to really separate them. And then they get all their oil, almost all their oil from the Middle East, right in countries that they don't control, don't have strong diplomatic relationships with on fleets of oil tankers that they can't defend because their navy doesn't have the ability to to operate effectively in the Indian Ocean.
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    China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 2nd of 24 in this recording

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  23. It absolutely asymmetrically helps China. We're not currently working with China. They don't plan to, but like the physics is very obvious, you know, and synthetic fuels have been around for 100 years.
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    China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 3rd of 24 in this recording

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  24. so the mainstream view would say, well, China has cheaper labor, which is no longer true, uh, say compared to Mexico, and it's got lower environmental regulations, uh, which is true, and that it is more businessfriendly, which is absolutely crazy.
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    China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 4th of 24 in this recording

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  25. And I think the United States could probably do that in 2 years or less if you started today. Like it's currently 11:00, so like we're going to start cutting checks by noon.
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    China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 5th of 24 in this recording

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  26. They're focused on the chips, right? Because they understand like the key bottleneck is the chips, not the solar power, right?
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    China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 6th of 24 in this recording

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  27. We're not going to run out of natural gas at 1 gawatt per year indefinitely. Okay, what if we're doing 5 gawatts per year? What if we're doing 50 gawatts per year? What if we're doing 100 gawatt per year? Like, you can you can just break the situation.
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    China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 7th of 24 in this recording

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  28. you're going to have to build your own power plant for them, which is how it used to work. Like if you if you had an aluminum plant back in the day, you would be building your own power plant for it as well.
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    China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 8th of 24 in this recording

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  29. well their cost of serving it is is like maybe a buck per million tokens or something like that and the cost of electricity is about 10% of that. So it's like 10 cents of electricity is generating $1,000 worth of economic value.
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    China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 9th of 24 in this recording

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  30. It is not only the case that solar adoption, production, price decreases are continuing. They're accelerating. And the rate that they're accelerating is still accelerating.
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    China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 10th of 24 in this recording

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  31. You you also don't know like in order to make that money back, you have to then operate that plant at that capacity for 20 years, right? And if I was looking at the same charts as they're looking at right now, I'd say what are the odds that in 25 years time we can produce gas turbines at a price that is relevant in a world where solar is already at its current price and batteries at a price where they're already like you cannot win.
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    China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 11th of 24 in this recording

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  32. So I think within a few years we'll probably see that like the majority of new DCs that are going in will be mostly solar
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    China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 12th of 24 in this recording

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  33. But then all you need to connect that to the outside world is like an optical fiber, right? An optical fiber cable which you can string up on poles, you can run underground, you could even use microwave links if you really wanted to.
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    China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 13th of 24 in this recording

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  34. actually it turns out that you can significantly decrease power consumption with a very small reduction in overall compute. So if you if you've got like three really bad days in a row or something, you can actually just like you can dial back your power usage quite a lot without compromising your inference or or um or training.
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    China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 14th of 24 in this recording

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  35. central takeaway is that is that the hyperscalers are not power cost sensitive they are power availability sensitive
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    China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 15th of 24 in this recording

  36. In terms of things that are causing us to lose to China, tariffs are neither here nor there because, as we've discussed, we're not sensitive to cost on power. But the environmental regulations that are actively preventing us from deploying renewable energy in the United States, like this is the reason Texas is winning. Texas is out deploying California 10 to1.
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    China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 16th of 24 in this recording

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  37. And the impact of solar array on desert is arguably positive because it shades the ground and improves like soil moisture retention. Um there like if you wanted to reverse desertification, you would basically just deploy solar panels on it and that would pay for the process.
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    China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 17th of 24 in this recording

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  38. the meta problem here is if we don't move our industrial stack off fossil fuels in 10 or 20 years, first of all, we'll get poor the same way you UK did, right? Because they ran out of coal basically. And the second thing is we'll get poor because we'll flood our coastal cities in Florida underneath climate change.
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    China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 18th of 24 in this recording

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  39. So it's just very clear that like the average distance the electron is going to travel between generation and consumption is going to decrease in the future pretty radically.
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    China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 19th of 24 in this recording

  40. And the bottleneck prior to what we call the industrial revolution was uh metabolism, right? It's just like how much like oats can a human or a horse physically digest and then convert into useful mechanical output for you know their their um their peasant overlord or whatever.
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    China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 20th of 24 in this recording

  41. because it's not competing against humans for most of those roles, it would be competing against the other labs, right? And so you'd actually see like the cost pushed down to, you know, a mult a small multiple of whatever the marginal production cost of those tokens is.
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    China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 21st of 24 in this recording

  42. so what you actually need is a big slab of relatively cheap silicon to make the power and then a small slab of relatively expensive silicon to do the thinking.
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    China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 22nd of 24 in this recording

  43. one square meter of silicon like like the thickness of a sheet of paper floating in space that's a future human form that's that's my final form
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    China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 23rd of 24 in this recording

  44. You can revisit a bunch of legacy industrial processes that are have been optimized for efficiency and say, well, what if we just like use twice as much power and we just want to do them faster and cheaper, right? Like less capex, less lead time, more power, right?
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    China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 24th of 24 in this recording

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  45. 2 months earlier
  46. It is clear, however, that today’s NASA is but a shadow of its former self.

    NASA Is Worth Savingcaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 1st of 2 in this piece

  47. I believe NASA is worth saving.

    NASA Is Worth Savingcaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 2nd of 2 in this piece

  48. 6 months earlier
  49. With the recent SpaceX Starship orbital flight tests, it is time to commit to building the largest physically possible space telescope.

    It Is Time To Build The Monster Scopecaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 1st of 3 in this piece

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  50. Current PhD students will be nearing retirement by the time these missions fly.

    It Is Time To Build The Monster Scopecaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 2nd of 3 in this piece

  51. The same as JWST, only 150 times wider and 22000 times more sensitive.

    It Is Time To Build The Monster Scopecaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 3rd of 3 in this piece

  52. 3 weeks earlier
  53. Inert glass rectangles that, placed on the ground, print out wealth, at roughly 100x the rate of the best farm land.

    Solar and batteries for generic use casescaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 1st of 3 in this piece

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  54. For loads below $1000/kW, intermittent operation with some modest solar array oversizing is the winning strategy. Above $1000/kW, we charge and discharge batteries daily to run them.

    Solar and batteries for generic use casescaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 2nd of 3 in this piece

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  55. A battery that’s discharging every day gets great utilization, but one that’s only there in case the sun doesn’t come up for two days in a row, barely gets used.

    Solar and batteries for generic use casescaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 3rd of 3 in this piece

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  56. 5 weeks earlier
  57. Four years on, the program has consumed another $20b with nothing to show for it.

    SLS is still a national disgracecaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 1st of 5 in this piece

  58. This is symptomatic of an agency who, compromising their technical integrity on their flagship program, subsequently lost the ability to maintain technical integrity anywhere else.

    SLS is still a national disgracecaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 2nd of 5 in this piece

  59. SLS, like JWST before it, eats everything in its path, meanwhile NASA hasn’t sent a single mission to Venus since 1989.

    SLS is still a national disgracecaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 3rd of 5 in this piece

  60. But for SpaceX, both the US and Europe would lack adequate strategic access to space.

    SLS is still a national disgracecaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 5th of 5 in this piece

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  61. 10 months earlier
  62. The brief summary is that MSR’s architecture, pictured below, is incredibly complicated, slow, and expensive.

    What is going on with Mars Sample Return?caseyhandmer.wordpress.com

  63. 2 weeks earlier
  64. In summary, it is hard to imagine a lower impact use of low-value land than solar development.

    Permitting Reform Or Deathcaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 1st of 4 in this piece

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  65. Yet solar development is hopelessly snarled by dozens of different development regulations which begin with the assumption that it will permanently and severely harm the environment unless proven otherwise, at exhaustive length.

    Permitting Reform Or Deathcaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 1st of 4 in this piece

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  66. The primary driver of increased impact, longer time scales before displacement, and catastrophically high levels of avoidable pollution is environmental protection regulations.

    Permitting Reform Or Deathcaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 2nd of 4 in this piece

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  67. The terrorist attacks on 9/11 killed 2996 people in a day of singular horror. Our ongoing indifference to regulatory inefficiency, considering only the area of green energy development, kills more people every year – more than 10 people per day, and that’s only within the US.

    Permitting Reform Or Deathcaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 3rd of 4 in this piece

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  68. 4 weeks earlier
  69. Per doubling of production, costs have fallen a consistent 30-40% since 1970, but it’s only in the last few years that this price has become competitive with legacy electricity generation

    Radical Energy Abundancecaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 1st of 7 in this piece

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  70. A number of commentators have consistently predicted that solar cost improvements will level out “this year” since about 1990, and yet if anything deployment, cost decline, and the learning rate have only improved.

    Radical Energy Abundancecaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 2nd of 7 in this piece

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  71. The logical end state of this displacement is not some hybrid grid with around 20% solar backed up by spinning generation, but a much more dynamic, versatile grid with around 200% solar generation and hours to days or weeks of battery storage, fully decoupling time of generation and consumption.

    Radical Energy Abundancecaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 3rd of 7 in this piece

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  72. The default climate discourse in recent years has been congruent to an acceptance that curtailing CO2 emissions would require the regrettable but ultimately impersonal de-industrialization and re-impoverishment of most of the world, which is both morally repugnant and politically impossible to achieve without first use of nuclear weapons.

    Radical Energy Abundancecaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 5th of 7 in this piece

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  73. Cheap solar is the unlock that brings human progress and climate action from the realm of fundamental incompatibility to complimentary inevitability.

    Radical Energy Abundancecaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 6th of 7 in this piece

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  74. Following current trends to second order, >95% of humanity’s energy needs will be downstream of solar panels by 2042, just 19 years away, and alongside enormous expansion in direct use of electricity, fuel consumption will grow to more than $25T/year in equivalent dollars.

    Radical Energy Abundancecaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 7th of 7 in this piece

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  75. We expect growth to at least double to 6%/year, for a cumulative tripling of the global economy by 2042.

    Radical Energy Abundancecaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 8th of 7 in this piece

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  76. 8 weeks earlier
  77. it is quite obviously impossible to enforce universal adoption of more expensive carbon-free energy through, eg, mandatory carbon offsets, as higher gas prices are political suicide regardless of system of government.

    How to Produce Green Hydrogen for $1/kgcaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 1st of 3 in this piece

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  78. we have to follow the cheapest solar wherever it leads – in this case away from 100% utilization and high electrical efficiency.

    How to Produce Green Hydrogen for $1/kgcaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 2nd of 3 in this piece

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  79. I am 100% confident that by the time we are mass producing this system at these prices later this decade, not only will this be the cheapest hydrogen available anywhere, it will also be the cheapest chemical energy and by far the most scalable

    How to Produce Green Hydrogen for $1/kgcaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 3rd of 3 in this piece

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  80. 22 months earlier
  81. A dollar spent on mass optimization no longer buys a dollar saved on launch cost.

    Starship is Still Not Understoodcaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 1st of 4 in this piece

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  82. No, Artemis is still trapped in a pre-Starship paradigm where each kilogram costs a million dollars and we must aggressively descope our ambition.

    Starship is Still Not Understoodcaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 2nd of 4 in this piece

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  83. At the same time, launch costs drop as low as $50/kg, roughly 100x lower than the present.

    Starship is Still Not Understoodcaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 3rd of 4 in this piece

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  84. Either the incumbent space industry adapts to Starship by finding ways to produce much more space hardware for much lower cost, or dozens of other new companies, unbound by tradition, entrenched interests, and high organizational overhead, will permanently take their business.

    Starship is Still Not Understoodcaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 4th of 4 in this piece

  85. 18 months earlier
  86. Throughout history, space exploration has failed to attract even a weak majority of support among the general electorate, even at the peak of the Apollo program.

    The big question: Why go to space at all?caseyhandmer.wordpress.com

  87. 8 months earlier
  88. My contention is that there are no known commodity resources in space that could be sold profitably on Earth.

    There are no known commodity resources in space that could be sold on Earthcaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 1st of 2 in this piece

  89. More broadly, for every industrially valuable ore, there is already a competitive and adequate, if not spectacular, supply chain here on Earth.

    There are no known commodity resources in space that could be sold on Earthcaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 2nd of 2 in this piece

  90. 7 days earlier
  91. My view is that space-based solar power is impossibly expensive and will never be used on Earth.

    Space-based solar power is not a thingcaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 1st of 3 in this piece

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  92. Even if all of Elon Musk’s wildest Starship dreams come true, transport costs will dominate the total capex of any space-based solar system, by many orders of magnitude.

    Space-based solar power is not a thingcaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 2nd of 3 in this piece

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  93. Communications satellites remain the killer app for the commercial space industry.

    Space-based solar power is not a thingcaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 3rd of 3 in this piece