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How cheap does solar get, and what does that change? — the views on this, and who holds which

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  1. EM

    Elon Musk quoted

    Founded SpaceX in 2002

    SpaceX will provide connectivity throughout the solar system and beyond

    ↗@elonmusk on Xx.com

  2. 5 days earlier
  3. BD

    Brad DeLong quoted

    Economics professor at the University of California

    energy

    Globally, solar's rise is a supply-side story: Chinese overcapacity, panels at $0.12/W, households and businesses defecting from the grid.

    ↗Rooftop Solar Rules Elsewhere!: CHART OF THE DAYbraddelong.substack.com

  4. BD

    Brad DeLong quoted

    America

    in the U.S., policy and plumbing now matter more than the price of a panel

    ↗Rooftop Solar Rules Elsewhere!: CHART OF THE DAYbraddelong.substack.com

  5. 2 weeks earlier
  6. EM

    Elon Musk quoted

    energy

    The solar power exponential will continue until all other energy sources are <<0.1%

    ↗@elonmusk on Xx.com

  7. 1 day earlier
  8. NS

    Noah Smith quoted

    Economics writer; author of the Noahpinion newsletter

    ChinaAmericaclimate changebatteries

    China scaled solar and batteries when America refused to, because the CCP got scared of climate change.

    ↗@Noahpinion on Xx.com

  9. 7 days earlier
  10. BM

    Bill McKibben quoted

    Writer and climate campaigner

    batteries

    there is actually one thing we do know how to do, and that is build out lots of cheap solar, wind, and batteries.

    ↗Facts on the groundbillmckibben.substack.com 2nd of 3 in this piece

  11. JC

    Jack Clark quoted

    Co-founder and head of policy at Anthropic

    space

    it seems like the next area of major discussion for humanity will be how to approach space colonization, including beyond the solar system.

    ↗Import AI 472: DeepMind’s cheating math agents; populist AI policies; and Forethought theorizes a nightwatchmanjack-clark.net 3rd of 3 in this piece

  12. 3 days earlier
  13. BS

    Bruce Schneier quoted

    Security technologist and author

    coding agents

    This kind of thing will be exploited. Think Solar Winds–style supply chain attacks.

    ↗AI Coding Agents Are Installing Unknown/Untrusted Code on Corporate Networksschneier.com

  14. 1 day earlier
  15. NS

    Noah Smith quoted

    energybatteries

    Because solar has, broadly speaking, won the technological race. Intermittency was the last big problem, and batteries have gotten good and cheap enough to make solar reliable.

    ↗Why you won’t get a flying carnoahpinion.blog

  16. 4 days earlier
  17. BM

    Bill McKibben quoted

    energyAmericaphysicsclimate change

    But physics is giving us very little time now, and so the next set of elections in this country will be, I think, our last real chance to make the sea change-replacing oil and gas with sun and wind-that is our best hope for limiting warming.

    ↗The growing rumblebillmckibben.substack.com 2nd of 3 in this piece

  18. 2 weeks earlier
  19. IT

    Isaiah Taylor quoted

    Founder and CEO of Valar Atomics

    energynuclear power

    Nuclear energy is the safest form of energy empirically. If you look at the amount of power generated versus the amount amount of deaths, um it's even safer than solar, which is very strange because how does someone die from solar? that actually most solar is installed on roofs and people sometimes die falling off of a roof installing solar and if you add those deaths up it is actually a higher death per energy than the totality of nuclear energy in the world.

    ↗How Nuclear Will Unlock Energy Abundance with Valar Atomics Founder Isaiah Tayloryoutube.com 6th of 18 in this recording

  20. 2 days earlier
  21. BM

    Bill McKibben quoted

    energybatteries

    Batteries are the transformative technology for the second half of this decade, as sun and wind were for the first half

    ↗Fun with numbersbillmckibben.substack.com 2nd of 3 in this piece

  22. BM

    Bill McKibben quoted

    energy

    that charge long leveled at sun and wind-that they provide "intermittent power"-is probably truer now of other energy sources

    ↗Fun with numbersbillmckibben.substack.com 3rd of 3 in this piece

  23. 6 weeks earlier
  24. CS

    Chris Smaje quoted

    Social scientist turned smallholder

    energy

    Agriculture is the only major sector that at present is significantly energised directly by zero cost and zero carbon sunlight.

    ↗Saving the world from bad ideas: the continuing failure of food ecomodernismchrissmaje.com 3rd of 7 in this piece

  25. CS

    Chris Smaje quoted

    energy

    but I do think that in a future of probable energy constraint there will be a need for a more peopled agriculture, with populations spreading out to tap diffuse solar energy input.

    ↗Saving the world from bad ideas: the continuing failure of food ecomodernismchrissmaje.com 4th of 7 in this piece

  26. 5 months earlier
  27. TY

    Tynan quoted

    American writer and long-term traveller

    I believe this is the watch great watchmakers would make today, given that back in the 1800s they were using all available technology.

    ↗Gear Post 2026tynan.com 1st of 2 in this piece

  28. 4 weeks earlier
  29. JH

    Jensen Huang quoted

    Co-founder and CEO of NVIDIA since 1993

    energy

    We need, you know, natural gas. We need to be, of course, we need more energy on the grid. We need more energy behind the meter. Uh we're going to need nuclear. Uh wind is not going to be enough. Solar is not going to be enough.

    ↗NVIDIA’s Jensen Huang on Reasoning Models, Robotics, and Refuting the “AI Bubble” Narrativeyoutube.com 17th of 20 in this recording

  30. 4 weeks earlier
  31. CH

    Casey Handmer quoted

    Physicist, formerly at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory

    data centers

    On the flip side, these captive solar power plants will be curtailing approximately 75% of their generated power and will be able to provide net power on all but a few days per year.

    ↗Energy Predictions 2025caseyhandmer.wordpress.com 2nd of 6 in this piece

  32. CH

    Casey Handmer quoted

    energy

    The only highly populated industrial country unable to trivially meet its electricity and synthetic fuel needs with solar alone is the United Kingdom, due primarily to a high population density and high latitude. The Nordic and Baltic countries are tiny by comparison. Among other problems, the UK needs to decide if it wants the future where energy is cheap and it is rich, or the future where energy is expensive and it is poor. If the former, it is time to get serious about large scale deployment of wind power, using home-grown vertically integrated technology at prices as low as $10/MWh.

    ↗Energy Predictions 2025caseyhandmer.wordpress.com 6th of 6 in this piece

  33. 5 weeks earlier
  34. CH

    Casey Handmer quoted

    It’s also a capsule to nowhere, designed without reference to any mission architecture that resembles our actual solar system.

    ↗NASA’s Orion Space Capsule Is Flaming Garbagecaseyhandmer.wordpress.com 3rd of 4 in this piece

  35. 3 months earlier
  36. CH

    Casey Handmer quoted

    ChinaAmericaphysics

    It absolutely asymmetrically helps China. We're not currently working with China. They don't plan to, but like the physics is very obvious, you know, and synthetic fuels have been around for 100 years.

    ↗China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 3rd of 24 in this recording

  37. CH

    Casey Handmer quoted

    China

    so the mainstream view would say, well, China has cheaper labor, which is no longer true, uh, say compared to Mexico, and it's got lower environmental regulations, uh, which is true, and that it is more businessfriendly, which is absolutely crazy.

    ↗China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 4th of 24 in this recording

  38. CH

    Casey Handmer quoted

    America

    And I think the United States could probably do that in 2 years or less if you started today. Like it's currently 11:00, so like we're going to start cutting checks by noon.

    ↗China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 5th of 24 in this recording

  39. CH

    Casey Handmer quoted

    They're focused on the chips, right? Because they understand like the key bottleneck is the chips, not the solar power, right?

    ↗China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 6th of 24 in this recording

  40. CH

    Casey Handmer quoted

    It is not only the case that solar adoption, production, price decreases are continuing. They're accelerating. And the rate that they're accelerating is still accelerating.

    ↗China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 10th of 24 in this recording

  41. CH

    Casey Handmer quoted

    batteries

    You you also don't know like in order to make that money back, you have to then operate that plant at that capacity for 20 years, right? And if I was looking at the same charts as they're looking at right now, I'd say what are the odds that in 25 years time we can produce gas turbines at a price that is relevant in a world where solar is already at its current price and batteries at a price where they're already like you cannot win.

    ↗China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 11th of 24 in this recording

  42. CH

    Casey Handmer quoted

    data centers

    So I think within a few years we'll probably see that like the majority of new DCs that are going in will be mostly solar

    ↗China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 12th of 24 in this recording

  43. CH

    Casey Handmer quoted

    data centers

    actually it turns out that you can significantly decrease power consumption with a very small reduction in overall compute. So if you if you've got like three really bad days in a row or something, you can actually just like you can dial back your power usage quite a lot without compromising your inference or or um or training.

    ↗China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 14th of 24 in this recording

  44. CH

    Casey Handmer quoted

    And the impact of solar array on desert is arguably positive because it shades the ground and improves like soil moisture retention. Um there like if you wanted to reverse desertification, you would basically just deploy solar panels on it and that would pay for the process.

    ↗China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 17th of 24 in this recording

  45. CH

    Casey Handmer quoted

    You can revisit a bunch of legacy industrial processes that are have been optimized for efficiency and say, well, what if we just like use twice as much power and we just want to do them faster and cheaper, right? Like less capex, less lead time, more power, right?

    ↗China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmeryoutube.com 24th of 24 in this recording