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recursive self-improvement

AI that improves AI: the loop where a model writes the code or the data that makes the next one.

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  1. RN

    Ramez Naam quoted

    Author and clean-energy investor who has been publishing…

    But to get very large benefits, and runaway RSI, I expect we’ll need conceptual breakthroughs.

    ↗Can a Million AI Agents Create Superintelligencerameznaam.com

  2. 3 weeks earlier
  3. RN

    Ramez Naam quoted

    Given our best current data, the AI self-improvement loop would need to be roughly 5–10× stronger to sustain itself, let alone run away.

    ↗Where’s the “intelligence explosion”?rameznaam.com

  4. RN

    Ramez Naam quoted

    AI alignment

    I do expect autonomous self-improvement to arrive at some point. I’m skeptical that it leads to Type 5 - runaway super-intelligence - without a major conceptual breakthrough.

    ↗Where’s the “intelligence explosion”?rameznaam.com

  5. 3 days earlier
  6. MY

    Matthew Yglesias quoted

    Writes Slow Boring, a near-daily newsletter on American…

    We have always known that recursive self-improvement is dangerous.

    ↗The A.I. apocalypse canon and why it mattersslowboring.com

  7. 2 days earlier
  8. TC

    Tyler Cowen quoted

    Economist at George Mason University

    The policy creates a big incentive for some other parts of the world to invest a lot more in compute.

    ↗Banning self-recursive improvement in AI models?marginalrevolution.com

  9. 3 days earlier
  10. NL

    Nathan Lambert quoted

    Machine-learning researcher on open language models

    LLMs

    RSI is poised to make modern LLMs vastly cheaper. Trends that have shown LLMs get exponentially cheaper at a given intelligence are likely to accelerate.

    ↗Why I still haven’t bought into true RSIinterconnects.ai 2nd of 3 in this piece

  11. 5 days earlier
  12. ZM

    Zvi Mowshowitz quoted

    Writes Don't Worry About the Vase

    AnthropicOpenAI

    Inside Anthropic and OpenAI, internal models are improving even faster. Over the summer there was a step change, as Mythos and Astra started kicking off the early stages of recursive self-improvement (RSI).

    ↗We Must Pace The Frontierthezvi.substack.com

  13. 1 day earlier
  14. ZM

    Zvi Mowshowitz quoted

    AnthropicOpenAI

    OpenAI and Anthropic have entered the RSI era. OpenAI Research Progress Is Accelerating Due To OpenAI Research Progress OpenAI has been opening up lately about many things. The most important issue of all is that of the acceleration and automation of AI R&D.

    ↗Brand New AI Solves a Millennium Prizethezvi.substack.com

  15. 7 days earlier
  16. JP

    Jakub Pachocki quoted

    Chief Scientist at OpenAI

    Based on internal results, I have a strong expectation that this speed of progress could be sustained into recursive self-improvement.

    ↗An Alien Mindopenai.com

  17. 5 days earlier
  18. TL

    Tobias Lütke quoted

    Co-founder and CEO of Shopify

    Training tiny models for special purpose use cases works so incredibly well if you have a great self improving recursive flywheel.

    ↗@tobi on Xx.com

  19. 8 days earlier
  20. JC

    Jack Clark quoted

    Co-founder and head of policy at Anthropic

    The lesson here is that we as a species might write a bunch of gold-label helper systems, like Hawkeye, and then machines will use this to bootstrap above and beyond our own capabilities.

    ↗Import AI 470: No rights for machines; automating environment generation with SPADE; and building better GPU kernels with Hawkeyejack-clark.net 2nd of 3 in this piece

  21. 7 days earlier
  22. JC

    Jack Clark quoted

    benchmarks

    My guess is we'll reach human parity on DiG-bench by middle of 2027, at which point we should expect things like recursive self-improvement to seriously kick off.

    ↗Import AI 469: Science AI; RSI simulator; and Zuck’s technological pessimismjack-clark.net 1st of 3 in this piece

  23. JC

    Jack Clark quoted

    The better AI systems get at this, the more likelihood we can assign to the idea that AI systems will imminently become capable of building themselves.

    ↗Import AI 469: Science AI; RSI simulator; and Zuck’s technological pessimismjack-clark.net 2nd of 3 in this piece

  24. 6 days earlier
  25. RG

    Ryan Greenblatt quoted

    Chief scientist at Redwood Research

    Maybe my sort of median expectation is something like uh four or five years of AI progress in a single year.

    ↗Ryan Greenblatt – What happens once AI can automate AI research?youtube.com 1st of 26 in this recording

  26. RG

    Ryan Greenblatt quoted

    I would say that I expect like full automation of AR&D perhaps somewhere around like 2031 2030 and then getting to like the like beats all humans on the job milestone. Maybe I expect median around 2033

    ↗Ryan Greenblatt – What happens once AI can automate AI research?youtube.com 2nd of 26 in this recording

  27. 1 day earlier
  28. JC

    Jack Clark quoted

    Posts like this highlight how we are under-eliciting today's AI systems for their ability to automate AI R&D - especially striking is how the company can jump the performance of Opus 5 by 10 absolute percentage points with a better harness.

    ↗Import AI 468: 23 RSI ideas; PostTrainBench+; and how trust and transparency interplay with AI racingjack-clark.net 1st of 3 in this piece

  29. FC

    François Chollet quoted

    Creator of the Keras deep-learning library and the ARC-AGI benchmark

    world models

    Coding isn't yet another application domain -- it's the meta-skill required for AI to automatically develop its own training material, via symbolic world models. That's how the RSI loop actually kicks off.

    ↗@fchollet on Xx.com

  30. 7 days earlier
  31. CP

    Chamath Palihapitiya quoted

    Founder and CEO of the venture firm Social Capital

    Looking at the results and capabilities from the various labs over the past few weeks I would say we are firmly in this loop now.

    ↗@chamath on Xx.com

  32. CP

    Chamath Palihapitiya quoted

    Recursive self improvement will dramatically increase capability very quickly from here.

    ↗@chamath on Xx.com

  33. 4 days earlier
  34. JD

    Jeff Dean quoted

    Chief Scientist at Google DeepMind and Google Research

    Um but I think there's no uh you know real impediment to making that be a much more automated loop where the model itself decides it's going to explore or maybe with a nudge from some people uh at the various highest level like oh why don't you try some new ideas around model architectures that incorporate this and then it will go run lots of experiments uh see which ones work and then those will get incorporated at a much more rapid rate

    ↗Jeff Dean: The 1% Rule for Building in AIyoutube.com 21st of 22 in this recording

  35. 4 days earlier
  36. JH

    Jensen Huang quoted

    Co-founder and CEO of NVIDIA since 1993

    coding agents

    we we kind of have coarse level uh recursive self-improvement already. And the fact that every time you use it, it improves the markdown files. Uh every time you use it, it updates its uh long-term memory.

    ↗Jensen Huang: The Mindset That Built NVIDIAyoutube.com 9th of 20 in this recording

  37. 3 weeks earlier
  38. LW

    Lilian Weng quoted

    Machine-learning researcher

    Recursive structure alone is not enough. The base model must be capable enough to improve the mechanism.

    ↗Harness Engineering for Self-Improvementlilianweng.github.io 2nd of 3 in this piece

  39. 5 months earlier
  40. JL

    Jan Leike quoted

    Alignment researcher

    We are starting to automate AI research and the recursive self-improvement process has begun.

    ↗Alignment is not solvedaligned.substack.com 4th of 5 in this piece

  41. 6 months earlier
  42. DH

    Demis Hassabis quoted

    Co-founder and CEO of Google DeepMind

    I mean potentially that's possible. I would say I'm not sure it's even desirable because that's a kind of hard takeoff scenario.

    ↗Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games | Lex Fridman Podcast #475youtube.com 9th of 20 in this recording

  43. 6 months earlier
  44. NL

    Nathan Lambert quoted

    AGI

    And for that reason, there's physical constraints to things like AGI, like recursive improvement to kill us all type stuff. For the physical reasons and for how humans have figured things out before, I'm not too worried about AI takeover.

    ↗DeepSeek, China, OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, TSMC, Stargate, and AI Megaclusters | Lex Fridman Podcast #459youtube.com 43rd of 44 in this recording