What Pieter Levels thinks about chat interfaces
Dutch bootstrapper who builds and runs his internet startups alone — Nomads.com, Remote OK, Hoodmaps, Photo AI and Interior AI — and has written about it at levels.io since 2013. Posts as @levelsio.
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3 dated positions, 2026, in their own words. Our reading of what Pieter Levels has said — not written or endorsed by them.
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Their wordsNormies don't vibe code, they just ask something like "do my bookkeeping" or "file my tax" or "organize a movie night and send invites" or "generate a flyer for movie night" or "edit my video" They don't ever see code, vibe code, or do anything with code, their AI chat app just does it for them
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Our readingMost of the software layer has already disappeared or will completely disappear for ordinary users.
Their wordsMost of the software layer has already disappeared or will completely disappear for normies
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Their wordsThe AI chat apps will slowly eat up most services and provide them to users directly, many times without even an app or interface, just do whatever the user wants
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