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What Chelsea Finn thinks about robotics

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Assistant professor of computer science at Stanford, and co-founder of the robot foundation-model company Physical Intelligence.

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The constraint returned to throughout is data rather than model size: diversity matters more than volume, low-quality data helps only when labelled as such, and most future data will come from attempts the robot makes itself. The reliability bar is thirteen hours of running, not one demonstration.

we find that the performance on held out tasks decreases dramatically. Whereas if we um just take out a random 20% of the data that's less diverse than the most diverse subset, the performance um only decreases a little bit. And so this suggests that actually having really diverse data plays an important role in enabling it to generalize to new tasks.
  1. Uh and this means that they're going to be far more useful when they're operating fully autonomously. And as a result, this requires us to develop physical AI systems that make far fewer mistakes than the machine learning systems that have been deployed thus far.

    Chelsea Finn: This is the State of the Art in Roboticsyoutube.com 2nd of 22 in this recording

  2. Um, and while this generally improves the reliability of the model, uh, people eventually get tired and it's hard to get really, really high reliability with a person that's manually tuning this. And so what would be even better is if the AI system itself can iterate on the scenario in which you want it to have higher reliability where it on its own automatically seeks out places where it needs more data, where it needs more supervision.

    Chelsea Finn: This is the State of the Art in Roboticsyoutube.com 3rd of 22 in this recording

  3. Now maybe this isn't completely out of the question but this would be quite challenging uh to do and that's because the calculus is a little bit different. We're not just running compute to optimize for a use case. We're actually running the robot in the real world and using the hardware and attempting the task in the real world.

    Chelsea Finn: This is the State of the Art in Roboticsyoutube.com 4th of 22 in this recording

    reinforcement learning

  4. and trying to fold two boxes together isn't useful data that will teach the model how to get better at the task. And so that would be kind of wasting a lot of time on the robot attempting to go down the wrong path for solving the problem. And so instead of spending a lot of time trying to do that task, what we'll do is we'll actually have a human intervene and show the robot what to do and how to recover from that situation.

    Chelsea Finn: This is the State of the Art in Roboticsyoutube.com 5th of 22 in this recording

  5. kind of going back to this reliability question, we took this policy and we ran it not just once, but we ran it for 13 hours straight. Uh and we basically wanted to evaluate is this policy not only good at making a latte once, but can it do so reliably to the extent that it would be needed to be useful in the real world?

    Chelsea Finn: This is the State of the Art in Roboticsyoutube.com 6th of 22 in this recording

  6. So, you might be surprised to hear that most state-of-the-art foundation models for robotics have no memory or no context. They're just operating on the current sensor observations, the current camera readings, uh, and predicting actions based off of that.

    Chelsea Finn: This is the State of the Art in Roboticsyoutube.com 7th of 22 in this recording

  7. And then for longer memory, for memory that spans multiple minutes or multiple hours, we don't necessarily need video of exactly what happened in that past uh in that past history.

    Chelsea Finn: This is the State of the Art in Roboticsyoutube.com 8th of 22 in this recording

  8. we see that the across the board the single PIO like pre-trained PIO7 model matches or outperforms the fine-tuned specialists that were developed with reinforcement learning post-training for those downstream tasks.

    Chelsea Finn: This is the State of the Art in Roboticsyoutube.com 11th of 22 in this recording

    scaling lawsreinforcement learning

  9. we find that the performance on held out tasks decreases dramatically. Whereas if we um just take out a random 20% of the data that's less diverse than the most diverse subset, the performance um only decreases a little bit. And so this suggests that actually having really diverse data plays an important role in enabling it to generalize to new tasks.

    Chelsea Finn: This is the State of the Art in Roboticsyoutube.com 12th of 22 in this recording

  10. without metadata prompting when you add lower quality data from 80% data to 100% data the performance actually decreases which is perhaps not too surprising because you're adding lowquality data to your data mixture whereas with the metadata prompting the performance actually increases when you add that lowquality data

    Chelsea Finn: This is the State of the Art in Roboticsyoutube.com 13th of 22 in this recording

  11. I think that the distribution channel for physical models is going to be slower uh unfortunately because you actually need a physical robot there

    Chelsea Finn: This is the State of the Art in Roboticsyoutube.com 14th of 22 in this recording

    OpenAI

  12. at the same time in terms of the capabilities of these models I think that we are really starting to get to the point where these models are actually useful in the real world and I think that getting to the kind of the capabilities of chat GBT I think is um yeah very much on the horizon in the next few years.

    Chelsea Finn: This is the State of the Art in Roboticsyoutube.com 15th of 22 in this recording

    OpenAI

  13. Uh and just like how we see in language models how now a lot of time is spent actually generating data, generating synthetic data by actually running the model and having it think through things. I think a lot of the data in the future in robotics is going to be the robot attempting to do lots of tasks in lots of real world circumstances.

    Chelsea Finn: This is the State of the Art in Roboticsyoutube.com 18th of 22 in this recording

  14. Uh and likewise um robots can't like watch a person doing something and then figure out how to do it themselves directly. They really need their experience on their own platform um to learn effectively.

    Chelsea Finn: This is the State of the Art in Roboticsyoutube.com 19th of 22 in this recording

  15. uh the we found that that leads to improvement and we saw in the shirt folding example we saw like a quantitative bump from using that sort of imagination compared to not using it. At the same time I think that the model actually performed surprisingly well without that as well.

    Chelsea Finn: This is the State of the Art in Roboticsyoutube.com 20th of 22 in this recording

  16. and yeah, I think it's either you need to figure out how to make the data faster or you need to figure out how to be faster than the data. We've seen the evidence of being able to be a little bit faster than the data.

    Chelsea Finn: This is the State of the Art in Roboticsyoutube.com 21st of 22 in this recording

  17. Um the robot essentially had learned this sort of equivariance between his left hand and his right hand so that it could actually transfer uh behaviors from one hand to another. uh despite the fact that that was never in the data.

    Chelsea Finn: This is the State of the Art in Roboticsyoutube.com 22nd of 22 in this recording