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What counts as evidence

A label like evidence-based can describe what was studied rather than what works. Who was compared with what, and how long the treatment ran, decide what a trial can show.

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"Evidence-based therapy" is a branding term rather than a scientific one, and in practice it is a code word for "not psychodynamic".

  1. Jonathan Shedler Clinical psychologist and clinical professor of psychiatry at UCSF The term "evidence-based therapy" is also, de facto, a code word for "not psychodynamic." Evidence-Based Therapy: Science or Marketing?psychologytoday.com · 2 Oct 2013
    The term "evidence-based therapy" is also, de facto, a code word for "not psychodynamic."

No research ever showed manualized CBT to be more effective than psychodynamic therapy; it was only studied more often.

  1. Jonathan Shedler Clinical psychologist and clinical professor of psychiatry at UCSF No research ever suggested that manualized CBT was more effective than psychodynamic therapy. It was just more often researched. There is a world of difference between saying a treatment is less often researched and saying it has been scientifically discredited. Evidence-Based Therapy: Science or Marketing?psychologytoday.com · 2 Oct 2013
    No research ever suggested that manualized CBT was more effective than psychodynamic therapy. It was just more often researched. There is a world of difference between saying a treatment is less often researched and saying it has been scientifically discredited.

The APA's trauma treatment guidelines should be ignored, because they rest only on trials of therapies too brief to have worked.

  1. Jonathan Shedler Clinical psychologist and clinical professor of psychiatry at UCSF The American Psychological Association (APA) just issued guidelines for treating trauma. Patients and therapists would be wise to ignore them. Selling Bad Therapy to Trauma Victimspsychologytoday.com · 19 Nov 2017
    The American Psychological Association (APA) just issued guidelines for treating trauma. Patients and therapists would be wise to ignore them.

Psychotherapy follows a dose-response curve: it takes more than 20 sessions before half of patients meaningfully improve, and more than 40 before three quarters do.

  1. Jonathan Shedler Clinical psychologist and clinical professor of psychiatry at UCSF It takes more than 20 sessions, or about six months of weekly therapy, before 50 percent of patients show meaningful improvement. It takes more than 40 sessions for 75 percent of patients to show meaningful improvement. Selling Bad Therapy to Trauma Victimspsychologytoday.com · 19 Nov 2017
    It takes more than 20 sessions, or about six months of weekly therapy, before 50 percent of patients show meaningful improvement. It takes more than 40 sessions for 75 percent of patients to show meaningful improvement.

A therapy is only shown to be more effective if it is compared against another treatment intended to help, not against a control nobody expected to work.

  1. Scott D. Miller Founder of the International Center for Clinical… If one really wanted to know whether a treatment (e.g., CBT, IPT, ACT, EMDR) was more effective, it had to be directly compared to an approach intended to help - what Wampold and colleagues termed, a "bona fide" treatment. Doing otherwise, they argued, conflated artifacts of research design with actual research results. Results from the first bona fide study of deliberate practicewritings.scottdmiller.com · 11 Sept 2024
    If one really wanted to know whether a treatment (e.g., CBT, IPT, ACT, EMDR) was more effective, it had to be directly compared to an approach intended to help - what Wampold and colleagues termed, a "bona fide" treatment. Doing otherwise, they argued, conflated artifacts of research design with actual research results.

When institutions can only offer compromised care they end up calling it best practice, and the patients who do not get better conclude that they themselves are beyond help.

  1. Jonathan Shedler Clinical psychologist and clinical professor of psychiatry at UCSF When patients don't get the help they need, they don't come away thinking, I didn't get good treatment. They come away thinking, I am too broken to be helped. They leave more hopeless and demoralized than when they came. That is harm. When Compromised Care Becomes "Best Practice"jonathanshedler.substack.com · 27 Jul 2026
    When patients don't get the help they need, they don't come away thinking, I didn't get good treatment. They come away thinking, I am too broken to be helped. They leave more hopeless and demoralized than when they came. That is harm.

Psychiatry's confidence in its theories of mind and brain exceeds the evidence supporting them.

  1. Awais Aftab Psychiatrist and clinical assistant professor at Case… Psychiatry has unearned confidence in both its theories of mind and its theories of brain. The Lawsuit That Came to Symbolize the Fall of Psychoanalytic Psychiatry: Eric Caplan on Osheroff v. Chestnut Lodgepsychiatrymargins.com · 12 Sept 2026All korrents from this piece
    Psychiatry has unearned confidence in both its theories of mind and its theories of brain.

Psychological health can be measured by how closely a person's traits approximate an idealized profile of healthy functioning.

  1. Jonathan Shedler Clinical psychologist and clinical professor of psychiatry at UCSF But we can measure psychological health by how closely a person approximates this hypothetical ideal. 23 Markers of Psychological Healthjonathanshedler.substack.com · 14 Sept 2026All korrents from this piece
    But we can measure psychological health by how closely a person approximates this hypothetical ideal.

Talk therapy alone often cannot shift the felt, physiological charge of a stuck memory.

  1. Annie Wright Licensed marriage and family therapist (LMFT) and executive coach Talk therapy alone often struggles to shift the felt, physiological charge of a stuck memory, even once the story is fully understood. EMDR vs Talk Therapyanniewright.com · 7 Apr 2026
    Talk therapy alone often struggles to shift the felt, physiological charge of a stuck memory, even once the story is fully understood.

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