The end state of the grid is not a fifth solar backed by spinning generation, but twice the demand in solar with days of storage behind it.

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  Europe cannot meet its energy needs from renewables alone and will need nuclear power, solar power from deserts elsewhere, or both.

  MacKay said Europe cannot live on its own renewables and needs nuclear, desert solar, or both. Handmer expects the end state to be roughly 200% solar generation with hours to weeks of battery storage and no spinning backup at all. Fifteen years and two cost curves separate them, and the thing MacKay held constant — that storage would stay expensive — is exactly what Handmer says changed.

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