korrents

Language learning

What people on korrents have said about language learning, in their own words — 33 claims from 6 people.

Steve Kaufmann, Luca Lampariello, Benny Lewis, Lýdia Machová, Gabriel Wyner, Scott H. Young

Five viewsour reading; the words are theirs

The language goes in before it comes out, and understanding is what does the teaching I came to the same conclusions independently before I encountered Krashen's work, and decades of learning across 20+ languages have only reinforced them. The research supports the intuition: input is where acquisition happens. — Steve Kaufmann, by 2026 Steve Kaufmann 7 claims

Claims that listening and reading you can mostly follow are the mechanism, and that studying about a language is not.

He reached the conclusion that input drives language acquisition on his own, before meeting the research that says so.

  1. Steve Kaufmann by Canadian former diplomat and lumber trader who speaks twenty languages I came to the same conclusions independently before I encountered Krashen's work, and decades of learning across 20+ languages have only reinforced them. The research supports the intuition: input is where acquisition happens. Comprehensible Input: How It Helps Language Learningblog.thelinguist.com · by 20 Jul 2026All korrents from this piece
    I came to the same conclusions independently before I encountered Krashen's work, and decades of learning across 20+ languages have only reinforced them. The research supports the intuition: input is where acquisition happens.

Language classes are worth something for the company and the correction, but listening and reading are what actually teach the language.

The one claim on this current that grants a classroom anything, and it grants it company and correction rather than the language.

  1. Steve Kaufmann by Canadian former diplomat and lumber trader who speaks twenty languages Sure, language classes can provide social benefits and feedback. But the real means of learning a language is consistent, ample amounts of listening and reading. Comprehensible Input: How It Helps Language Learningblog.thelinguist.com · by 20 Jul 2026All korrents from this piece
    Sure, language classes can provide social benefits and feedback. But the real means of learning a language is consistent, ample amounts of listening and reading.

A beginner cannot learn from material made for native speakers: at the start, authentic media is noise.

  1. Steve Kaufmann by Canadian former diplomat and lumber trader who speaks twenty languages If you are starting a language completely from scratch, authentic media is just noise. You’ll absorb very little. You need highly repetitive, simple input. Comprehensible Input: How It Helps Language Learningblog.thelinguist.com · by 20 Jul 2026All korrents from this piece
    If you are starting a language completely from scratch, authentic media is just noise. You’ll absorb very little. You need highly repetitive, simple input.

Past the beginning, learn from whatever you actually care about rather than from material written for learners.

  1. Steve Kaufmann by Canadian former diplomat and lumber trader who speaks twenty languages Don’t limit yourself to material designed for language learners. Read and listen to content that you genuinely care about. Comprehensible Input: How It Helps Language Learningblog.thelinguist.com · by 20 Jul 2026All korrents from this piece
    Don’t limit yourself to material designed for language learners. Read and listen to content that you genuinely care about.

Learning a language happens through exposure to language you can mostly understand; classroom drills feel productive and build nothing.

  1. Steve Kaufmann Canadian former diplomat and lumber trader who speaks twenty languages Classroom activities like grammar drills and vocabulary tests feel productive. You are doing something. But none of it builds the network your brain actually needs. What Is Second Language Acquisition?blog.thelinguist.com · 13 Apr 2026All korrents from this piece
    Classroom activities like grammar drills and vocabulary tests feel productive. You are doing something. But none of it builds the network your brain actually needs.

A person who studies a language for years and cannot speak it was taught the wrong method; it is not a failure of talent or of effort.

  1. Steve Kaufmann Canadian former diplomat and lumber trader who speaks twenty languages Most people hear that story and think: he must have lacked talent, or commitment. I don’t think that’s the right conclusion. I think he was never taught how second language acquisition actually works, and so he spent hundreds of hours doing the wrong things. What Is Second Language Acquisition?blog.thelinguist.com · 13 Apr 2026All korrents from this piece
    Most people hear that story and think: he must have lacked talent, or commitment. I don’t think that’s the right conclusion. I think he was never taught how second language acquisition actually works, and so he spent hundreds of hours doing the wrong things.

The practical instruction that follows from the research is simple and hard to do: listen and read a great deal.

  1. Steve Kaufmann Canadian former diplomat and lumber trader who speaks twenty languages The practical takeaway from SLA research is both simple and demanding: you need to listen and read a lot. What Is Second Language Acquisition?blog.thelinguist.com · 13 Apr 2026All korrents from this piece
    The practical takeaway from SLA research is both simple and demanding: you need to listen and read a lot.
Speaking starts before you are ready, and what stops people is embarrassment rather than vocabulary The no-English rule was largely what made the difference. Although there are many ways of learning a language, going for full immersion made it possible to learn what would have taken years in just a few months. — Scott H. Young, 2014 Scott H. Young, Benny Lewis 7 claims

Claims that production is the thing being learned, that it cannot be postponed until you are good, and that the barrier is social.

Refusing to speak English is what makes immersion work: it compresses years of language learning into months.

Sits on the speaking current rather than the immersion one because what it asserts is a rule about output, not about where you are.

  1. Scott H. Young Canadian writer on learning who taught himself MIT's… The no-English rule was largely what made the difference. Although there are many ways of learning a language, going for full immersion made it possible to learn what would have taken years in just a few months. Looking Back at a Year (Almost) Without Englishscotthyoung.com · 2 Sept 2014All korrents from this piece
    The no-English rule was largely what made the difference. Although there are many ways of learning a language, going for full immersion made it possible to learn what would have taken years in just a few months.

Speaking badly is not a failure on the way to speaking well; it is a stage that has to be passed through on purpose.

  1. Benny Lewis by Irish writer who spent his twenties travelling and speaking I learned a long time ago that speaking like “Tarzan” is an absolutely necessary stage to go through, so you get used to using the language in SOME way. You learn to get used to the embarrassment and get on with learning quicker. Speaking a language badly: how to get over the ego problemfluentin3months.com · by 12 Oct 2012All korrents from this piece
    I learned a long time ago that speaking like “Tarzan” is an absolutely necessary stage to go through, so you get used to using the language in SOME way. You learn to get used to the embarrassment and get on with learning quicker.

What stops people speaking a new language is not missing vocabulary; it is being unwilling to be heard sounding stupid.

Bottlenecks

  1. Benny Lewis by Irish writer who spent his twenties travelling and speaking Perfectionist and elitist learners will never accept being perceived as less than geniuses the entire time, so they will never expose themselves to sounding “stupid”, as they may perceive it. Speaking a language badly: how to get over the ego problemfluentin3months.com · by 12 Oct 2012All korrents from this piece
    Perfectionist and elitist learners will never accept being perceived as less than geniuses the entire time, so they will never expose themselves to sounding “stupid”, as they may perceive it.

The hard part of speaking from the start is not the gaps in what you know but making peace with not knowing the simplest words.

  1. Benny Lewis by Irish writer who spent his twenties travelling and speaking But it's HARD to start this. NOT because of all the academic reasons of lack of vocabulary and grammar, but because you need to be cool with the fact that you are not going to know the simplest of words. Speaking a language badly: how to get over the ego problemfluentin3months.com · by 12 Oct 2012All korrents from this piece
    But it's HARD to start this. NOT because of all the academic reasons of lack of vocabulary and grammar, but because you need to be cool with the fact that you are not going to know the simplest of words.

There is no threshold of vocabulary to cross before speaking begins; the change is a decision, not a level reached.

  1. Benny Lewis by Irish writer who spent his twenties travelling and speaking It's not like I passed some threshold of having enough words to get started speaking Speaking a language badly: how to get over the ego problemfluentin3months.com · by 12 Oct 2012All korrents from this piece
    It's not like I passed some threshold of having enough words to get started speaking

Speaking is learned only by speaking a lot; no amount of study substitutes for it.

  1. Benny Lewis by Irish writer who spent his twenties travelling and speaking The only way you will speak a language and make progress in speaking it faster and better is if you practise speaking it a lot. The ONLY way to speak a languagefluentin3months.com · by 3 Oct 2011All korrents from this piece
    The only way you will speak a language and make progress in speaking it faster and better is if you practise speaking it a lot.

Everything other than talking to a native speaker is auxiliary, and none of it will get you speaking on its own.

  1. Benny Lewis by Irish writer who spent his twenties travelling and speaking All auxiliary tasks can help move you in the right direction, but will not ultimately help you speak unless you find a native, put yourself in front of them and force yourself to start to communicate. The ONLY way to speak a languagefluentin3months.com · by 3 Oct 2011All korrents from this piece
    All auxiliary tasks can help move you in the right direction, but will not ultimately help you speak unless you find a native, put yourself in front of them and force yourself to start to communicate.
There is no best method in general, only the one a particular person will keep doing after 30 years of learning languages and 10 years of coaching people to do the same, I am 100% positive when I tell you that there is no absolute best and fastest way to learn a language. — Luca Lampariello, 2020 Luca Lampariello, Scott H. Young 8 claims · 2 changes of mind

Claims that the question is badly posed — that enjoyment and persistence decide the outcome, and that a method has limits its holder had to find out.

There is no best or fastest way to learn a language; the question has no general answer.

  1. Luca Lampariello Italian language coach who speaks more than ten languages… after 30 years of learning languages and 10 years of coaching people to do the same, I am 100% positive when I tell you that there is no absolute best and fastest way to learn a language. The Only True Way to Learn a Languagelucalampariello.com · 9 Sept 2020All korrents from this piece
    after 30 years of learning languages and 10 years of coaching people to do the same, I am 100% positive when I tell you that there is no absolute best and fastest way to learn a language.

There is no best method in general, but there is a best method for each particular learner, and finding it is the work.

  1. Luca Lampariello Italian language coach who speaks more than ten languages… While there is no absolute best and fastest way to learn a language, there definitely is a best and fastest way FOR YOU, personally, to learn a language. A method that is tailored to your likes and dislikes, your learning style, and your schedule. The Only True Way to Learn a Languagelucalampariello.com · 9 Sept 2020All korrents from this piece
    While there is no absolute best and fastest way to learn a language, there definitely is a best and fastest way FOR YOU, personally, to learn a language. A method that is tailored to your likes and dislikes, your learning style, and your schedule.

A method you hate will end in burnout however well it works for other people, so it should be abandoned rather than endured.

  1. Luca Lampariello Italian language coach who speaks more than ten languages… For your health and sanity, do not force yourself to learn a language using a method you hate, no matter how good other people say it is. Trying to do so will only lead to disappointment, and ultimately burnout. The Only True Way to Learn a Languagelucalampariello.com · 9 Sept 2020All korrents from this piece
    For your health and sanity, do not force yourself to learn a language using a method you hate, no matter how good other people say it is. Trying to do so will only lead to disappointment, and ultimately burnout.

People persist with the method they enjoy rather than the one that is supposed to be best, and that is what decides the outcome.

  1. Luca Lampariello Italian language coach who speaks more than ten languages… In general, people will stick with the learning strategy that they like best, not the one that everyone says is best. The Only True Way to Learn a Languagelucalampariello.com · 9 Sept 2020All korrents from this piece
    In general, people will stick with the learning strategy that they like best, not the one that everyone says is best.

His bidirectional translation method applies to every language he sets out to learn.

Filed under this current because of how it ended: its holder abandoned the universal claim for the reason the current names, that the method was his rather than everyone's.

  1. Luca Lampariello Italian language coach who speaks more than ten languages… When I first developed my Bidirectional Translation method, I applied it to each and every language I decided to learn. The Only True Way to Learn a Languagelucalampariello.com · 9 Sept 2020All korrents from this piece

    When I first developed my Bidirectional Translation method, I applied it to each and every language I decided to learn.

    In hindsight, what I should have done then was be flexible. I should have taken my Bidirectional Translation method and attempted to adapt it to better suit Japanese, rather than the other way around. Instead, I remained rigid and inflexible in my learning strategies, in terms of the resources I used and how I used them, and that’s why I failed.

Asian languages are hard enough that arriving without preparation and refusing to speak English will not work.

  1. Scott H. Young Canadian writer on learning who taught himself MIT's… The main takeaway I made from all of this was: Asian languages are hard, and attempting full-immersion without sufficient preparation is usually not going to work. Looking Back at a Year (Almost) Without Englishscotthyoung.com · 2 Sept 2014All korrents from this piece
    The main takeaway I made from all of this was: Asian languages are hard, and attempting full-immersion without sufficient preparation is usually not going to work.

Learning a language in a hurry and learning one by slow patient habit are both legitimate; neither refutes the other.

  1. Scott H. Young Canadian writer on learning who taught himself MIT's… Just because we attempted to learn with intensity, doesn’t denigrate learning languages through slow, patient habit. Looking Back at a Year (Almost) Without Englishscotthyoung.com · 2 Sept 2014All korrents from this piece
    Just because we attempted to learn with intensity, doesn’t denigrate learning languages through slow, patient habit.

Reaching a conversational level in a language within three months of arriving is not something to expect.

The expectation its holder argued against before setting out, and then abandoned after meeting it in three languages.

  1. Scott H. Young Canadian writer on learning who taught himself MIT's… When Vat and I initially made plans, neither of us were confident that it would be possible to reach a conversational level in any of the languages. Looking Back at a Year (Almost) Without Englishscotthyoung.com · 2 Sept 2014All korrents from this piece

    When Vat and I initially made plans, neither of us were confident that it would be possible to reach a conversational level in any of the languages.

    The fact that I can confidently say I reached a conversational level in Spanish, Portuguese and Chinese, and a near-conversational level for Korean is far above what I originally thought was possible.

A language is a skill to be built, and nobody can build it for the learner Some people think CI means you reject grammar books. I disagree. I often reference grammar materials and find these explanations useful. However, the focus of my learning is not to “master the rules”. Grammar resources simply help me notice and make sense of patterns in the language. — Steve Kaufmann, by 2026 Steve Kaufmann, Lýdia Machová, Luca Lampariello 6 claims

Claims about what is actually being acquired — abilities rather than facts — and about what a teacher can and cannot do.

Learning from input does not mean refusing grammar books; the point is to notice patterns, not to master the rules.

  1. Steve Kaufmann by Canadian former diplomat and lumber trader who speaks twenty languages Some people think CI means you reject grammar books. I disagree. I often reference grammar materials and find these explanations useful. However, the focus of my learning is not to “master the rules”. Grammar resources simply help me notice and make sense of patterns in the language. Comprehensible Input: How It Helps Language Learningblog.thelinguist.com · by 20 Jul 2026All korrents from this piece
    Some people think CI means you reject grammar books. I disagree. I often reference grammar materials and find these explanations useful. However, the focus of my learning is not to “master the rules”. Grammar resources simply help me notice and make sense of patterns in the language.

Nobody can be taught a language by anyone else; a teacher can help, but the learning is the learner's to do.

  1. Lýdia Machová by Slovak conference interpreter who speaks seven languages… I'm convinced that it's not possible to teach anyone a language. A good teacher can help you on this journey – but they cannot give the language to you on a silver platter. About Melanguagementoring.com · by 14 Jun 2024All korrents from this piece
    I'm convinced that it's not possible to teach anyone a language. A good teacher can help you on this journey – but they cannot give the language to you on a silver platter.

The thing worth teaching is not a language but how to learn languages, because that skill repeats for every language after it.

  1. Lýdia Machová by Slovak conference interpreter who speaks seven languages… I don't teach people languages, I teach them how they can learn languages by themselves. About Melanguagementoring.com · by 14 Jun 2024All korrents from this piece
    I don't teach people languages, I teach them how they can learn languages by themselves.

A language is a set of skills to be built, not a body of facts to be known.

  1. Luca Lampariello Italian language coach who speaks more than ten languages… This is an important detail that often gets overlooked, because language learning is, first and foremost, about acquiring skills. About learning how to read, write, speak, and listen, along with all of the countless subskills that any competent language speaker has in his or her toolbox. 3 Steps for Effective Translation to Learn Any Languagelucalampariello.com · 19 Aug 2021All korrents from this piece
    This is an important detail that often gets overlooked, because language learning is, first and foremost, about acquiring skills. About learning how to read, write, speak, and listen, along with all of the countless subskills that any competent language speaker has in his or her toolbox.

Knowing conjugation tables, word lists and the names of the tenses has nothing to do with being able to use a language.

  1. Luca Lampariello Italian language coach who speaks more than ten languages… In traditional classroom settings, the development of skills often gets overlooked in favor of facts. Facts in the form of conjugation tables, word lists, grammar explanations, the names of verb tenses, and so on. All of these things are related to language, but it’s important to realize that knowing these things has nothing to do with speaking and using a language productively. 3 Steps for Effective Translation to Learn Any Languagelucalampariello.com · 19 Aug 2021All korrents from this piece
    In traditional classroom settings, the development of skills often gets overlooked in favor of facts. Facts in the form of conjugation tables, word lists, grammar explanations, the names of verb tenses, and so on. All of these things are related to language, but it’s important to realize that knowing these things has nothing to do with speaking and using a language productively.
What has to change is in the ear and the head, not in the vocabulary list But that can’t possibly be true. Singers and actors learn new accents all the time, and they’re not, on average, smarter than everyone else (and they certainly don’t all start before the age of 7). — Gabriel Wyner, by 2019 Gabriel Wyner 4 claims

Claims that hearing a language's sounds gates what can be remembered, that an adult accent is trainable, and that translating in your head has a ceiling.

The belief that an adult can no longer learn a good accent is false: singers and actors do it routinely.

  1. Gabriel Wyner by American opera singer who had to sing convincingly in German But that can’t possibly be true. Singers and actors learn new accents all the time, and they’re not, on average, smarter than everyone else (and they certainly don’t all start before the age of 7). Discover the Key To Learning Pronunciationblog.fluent-forever.com · by 18 Jul 2019All korrents from this piece
    But that can’t possibly be true. Singers and actors learn new accents all the time, and they’re not, on average, smarter than everyone else (and they certainly don’t all start before the age of 7).

Failing to hear a language's sounds is what makes its words impossible to remember.

  1. Gabriel Wyner by American opera singer who had to sing convincingly in German For one, if you don’t learn to hear the sounds in a new language, you’re doomed to have a hard time remembering it. Discover the Key To Learning Pronunciationblog.fluent-forever.com · by 18 Jul 2019All korrents from this piece
    For one, if you don’t learn to hear the sounds in a new language, you’re doomed to have a hard time remembering it.

Translating in your head has a ceiling; thinking in the language is the only thing that gets past it.

Bottlenecks

  1. Gabriel Wyner by American opera singer who had to sing convincingly in German There is a limit to translation. You can make your translations more and more complex, and you can get very fast at them, but it will never be as fast or as fluent as simply thinking in the language. How To Learn a Language Fast: Say No to Translationblog.fluent-forever.com · by 18 Jul 2019All korrents from this piece
    There is a limit to translation. You can make your translations more and more complex, and you can get very fast at them, but it will never be as fast or as fluent as simply thinking in the language.

Removing translation from the process is what lets you think in the language from the beginning.

  1. Gabriel Wyner by American opera singer who had to sing convincingly in German When you remove translation from your language learning process, you can learn to think in your target language from the beginning. How To Learn a Language Fast: Say No to Translationblog.fluent-forever.com · by 18 Jul 2019All korrents from this piece
    When you remove translation from your language learning process, you can learn to think in your target language from the beginning.

Read togetherour reading of the record — ours, not theirs

Between them they speak fifty-odd languages, and still disagree about how anyone learns one.

What is a view?

Our reading of what a group of claims have in common. Nobody holds a belief about language learning as such; people hold beliefs about the handful of live questions the name stands for, and each view is one of them. The claims are printed under it, so the sentence can be checked against them.

Claims are filed here — never people. Somebody is named on a card because a dated claim of theirs sits under it, and somebody whose claims sit under two views is named on both. There are no counts of who believes what: the people under a view are the names printed there.

Where the views collide

Asserted relations whose two claims sit under different views — each with the curator’s reason, never computed.

The language goes in before it comes out, and understanding is what does the teaching ↔ Speaking starts before you are ready, and what stops people is embarrassment rather than vocabulary

Lewis says everything other than talking to a native speaker is auxiliary and none of it gets you speaking on its own. Kaufmann says the practical instruction that follows from the research is to listen and read a great deal. They are giving a beginner opposite advice about what to spend the first months doing.

Speaking starts before you are ready, and what stops people is embarrassment rather than vocabulary ↔ The language goes in before it comes out, and understanding is what does the teaching

Lewis says speaking is learned only by speaking a lot and that no amount of study substitutes for it. Kaufmann says learning happens through exposure to language you can mostly understand, and that drills which feel productive build nothing. This is the input-versus-output argument in its plainest form, and both men have decades of languages behind their answer.

Speaking starts before you are ready, and what stops people is embarrassment rather than vocabulary ↔ There is no best method in general, only the one a particular person will keep doing

Lampariello says there is no best method in general, only a best method for each particular learner. Lewis makes exactly the universal claim Lampariello denies is available — that speaking is the one thing that works, for everyone. A claim that no universal answer exists and a universal answer cannot both stand.

The language goes in before it comes out, and understanding is what does the teaching ↔ Speaking starts before you are ready, and what stops people is embarrassment rather than vocabulary

Kaufmann says authentic material is noise to a beginner, so the start has to be graded input. Lewis says there is no threshold to cross before speaking begins and that the change is a decision rather than a level reached. Both are about the very first weeks, and only one of them has a stage that must be got through first.

The language goes in before it comes out, and understanding is what does the teaching ↔ Speaking starts before you are ready, and what stops people is embarrassment rather than vocabulary

Young credits a no-English rule with compressing years of learning into months, which is an output-first account of what did the work. Kaufmann credits comprehensible input and says classroom drills build nothing. Immersion supplies both at once, which is why the two men can point at the same three months and disagree about what caused the result.

Read, and under none of the views

On this subject, but saying something the views above do not cover.

A teacher who does not insist on the target language is a bad teacher.

  1. Benny Lewis by Irish writer who spent his twenties travelling and speaking In my view, they are simply a BAD TEACHER if they don't encourage exclusive use of the target language. Speaking a language badly: how to get over the ego problemfluentin3months.com · by 12 Oct 2012All korrents from this piece
    In my view, they are simply a BAD TEACHER if they don't encourage exclusive use of the target language.

On this subject, not yet placed

Matched by wording, not yet read into a view. The archive grows on its own — the watcher adds claims every two hours — so this is where new ones wait for somebody to read them.

The stream

The same 42 positions as the timeline, threaded — each on the rail of the view it is filed under, and 10 on no rail yet. Tap a view to follow it.

July 2026

April 2026

November 2025

October 2025

July 2024

June 2024

September 2021

August 2021

September 2020

July 2019

September 2014

October 2012

October 2011

October 2008

c. 1933

c. 551–479 BCE

The same record, other ways: every position as a chronology, or person by person.