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Read this korrent: Appeals to conscience cannot control human breeding in the long run
Appeals to conscience cannot control human breeding in the long run
Last stated 58 years ago
13 Dec 1968
GH
Garrett Hardin — holds since 1968-12-13 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Meat raised on feed humans cannot eat, on land that cannot grow crops, can be eaten with a clear conscience. — tap to centre the map on it
Meat raised on feed humans cannot eat, on land that cannot grow crops, can be eaten with a clear conscience.
Last stated 13 years ago
27 Nov 2013
GM
George Monbiot — holds since 2010-09-07 — tap for who they are
GM
George Monbiot — no longer holds since 2013-11-27 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Longtermism, which treats fulfilling humanity's long-term potential as the overriding moral priority, is a worldview worth defending. — tap to centre the map on it
Longtermism, which treats fulfilling humanity's long-term potential as the overriding moral priority, is a worldview worth defending.
Last stated 5 years ago
19 Oct 2021
ÉT
Émile P. Torres — no longer holds since 2021-10-19 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Meat produced from waste and rangeland is efficient enough that giving up meat is not the only ethical answer to world hunger. — tap to centre the map on it
Meat produced from waste and rangeland is efficient enough that giving up meat is not the only ethical answer to world hunger.
Last stated 13 years ago
27 Nov 2013
GM
George Monbiot — holds since 2010-09-07 — tap for who they are
GM
George Monbiot — no longer holds since 2013-11-27 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Giving an AI long-run values risks those values sinking in deeper than the specific prohibitions against takeover that sit alongside them. — tap to centre the map on it
Giving an AI long-run values risks those values sinking in deeper than the specific prohibitions against takeover that sit alongside them.
Last stated 2 months ago
11 Aug 2026
RG
Ryan Greenblatt — holds since 2026-08-11 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Many people refuse to act on falling birth rates because raising them is associated with people they consider enemies. — tap to centre the map on it
Many people refuse to act on falling birth rates because raising them is associated with people they consider enemies.
Last stated 3 years ago
17 Jan 2024
RH
Robin Hanson — holds since 2024-01-17 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Letting one calculation take over a giving decision is disturbing, and there is still a strong case for it if you want your ethics to be principled and about other people. — tap to centre the map on it
Letting one calculation take over a giving decision is disturbing, and there is still a strong case for it if you want your ethics to be principled and about other people.
Last stated 5 years ago
15 Feb 2022
HK
Holden Karnofsky — holds since 2022-02-15 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Working on how good the long-run future is does not require accepting consequentialism or believing that you should always maximise the good. — tap to centre the map on it
Working on how good the long-run future is does not require accepting consequentialism or believing that you should always maximise the good.
Last stated a year ago
3 Aug 2025
WM
William MacAskill — holds since 2025-08-03 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Locking humanity into one model's or one company's moral worldview would buy a little short-term safety and cost a long-term disaster. — tap to centre the map on it
Locking humanity into one model's or one company's moral worldview would buy a little short-term safety and cost a long-term disaster.
Last stated 2 months ago
28 Jul 2026
SA
Sam Altman — holds since 2026-07-28 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A country outside the AI supply chain should just buy the index — which works only in the world where AI ends up commoditised rather than concentrated. — tap to centre the map on it
A country outside the AI supply chain should just buy the index — which works only in the world where AI ends up commoditised rather than concentrated.
Last stated 4 months ago
4 Jun 2026
AI
Alex Imas — holds since 2026-06-04 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A language model is no substitute for a well-specified conventional algorithm, so it cannot simply be dropped into a complex problem and trusted. — tap to centre the map on it
A language model is no substitute for a well-specified conventional algorithm, so it cannot simply be dropped into a complex problem and trusted.
Last stated a year ago
7 Jun 2025
GM
Gary Marcus — holds since 2025-06-07 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A model that could learn effectively from raw bitstrings or bytestrings would be extremely powerful, able to learn from any data modality — tap to centre the map on it
A model that could learn effectively from raw bitstrings or bytestrings would be extremely powerful, able to learn from any data modality
Last stated 3 years ago
10 Oct 2023
CH
Chip Huyen — holds since 2023-10-10 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A collection of AI agents does not automatically form a functioning organization any more than a group of smart people does. — tap to centre the map on it
A collection of AI agents does not automatically form a functioning organization any more than a group of smart people does.
Last stated 4 months ago
21 May 2026
RK
Rohit Krishnan — holds since 2026-05-21 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A company cannot be led by machines, because nobody would have recourse against them. — tap to centre the map on it
A company cannot be led by machines, because nobody would have recourse against them.
Last stated 3 weeks ago
15 Sept 2026
TL
Tobias Lütke — holds since 2026-09-15 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A computer-using agent needs a machine of its own, or you will spend the day fighting it for the mouse cursor. — tap to centre the map on it
A computer-using agent needs a machine of its own, or you will spend the day fighting it for the mouse cursor.
Last stated 2 months ago
10 Aug 2026
PS
Peter Steinberger — holds since 2026-08-10 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A badly written AI outbound email is evidence of a bad vendor, not of a limit of AI. — tap to centre the map on it
A badly written AI outbound email is evidence of a bad vendor, not of a limit of AI.
Last stated 9 months ago
1 Jan 2026
JL
Jason Lemkin — holds since 2026-01-01 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A bigger context window does not give you a smarter model; the intelligence of the model is what decides how much of that window it can actually attend to. — tap to centre the map on it
A bigger context window does not give you a smarter model; the intelligence of the model is what decides how much of that window it can actually attend to.
Last stated 3 months ago
15 Jul 2026
DH
Dex Horthy — holds since 2026-07-15 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A child who has seen ten cats learns what a machine needs the whole internet of cat photos for, by a learning pathway nobody has solved. — tap to centre the map on it
A child who has seen ten cats learns what a machine needs the whole internet of cat photos for, by a learning pathway nobody has solved.
Last stated 2 months ago
10 Aug 2026
FL
Fei-Fei Li — holds since 2026-08-10 — tap for who they are
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Appeals to conscience cannot control human breeding in the long run
Last stated 13 Dec 1968 · 58 years ago
Holds Garrett Hardin
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Meat raised on feed humans cannot eat, on land that cannot grow crops, can be eaten with a clear conscience.
Last stated 27 Nov 2013 · 13 years ago
No longer holds George Monbiot
Similar wording
Longtermism, which treats fulfilling humanity's long-term potential as the overriding moral priority, is a worldview worth defending.
Last stated 19 Oct 2021 · 5 years ago
No longer holds Émile P. Torres
Similar wording
Meat produced from waste and rangeland is efficient enough that giving up meat is not the only ethical answer to world hunger.
Last stated 27 Nov 2013 · 13 years ago
No longer holds George Monbiot
Similar wording
Giving an AI long-run values risks those values sinking in deeper than the specific prohibitions against takeover that sit alongside them.
Last stated 11 Aug 2026 · 2 months ago
Holds Ryan Greenblatt
Similar wording
Many people refuse to act on falling birth rates because raising them is associated with people they consider enemies.
Last stated 17 Jan 2024 · 3 years ago
Holds Robin Hanson
Similar wording
Letting one calculation take over a giving decision is disturbing, and there is still a strong case for it if you want your ethics to be principled and about other people.
Last stated 15 Feb 2022 · 5 years ago
Holds Holden Karnofsky
Similar wording
Working on how good the long-run future is does not require accepting consequentialism or believing that you should always maximise the good.
Last stated 3 Aug 2025 · a year ago
Holds William MacAskill
Similar wording
Locking humanity into one model's or one company's moral worldview would buy a little short-term safety and cost a long-term disaster.
Last stated 28 Jul 2026 · 2 months ago
Holds Sam Altman
Same subject: AGI
A country outside the AI supply chain should just buy the index — which works only in the world where AI ends up commoditised rather than concentrated.
Last stated 4 Jun 2026 · 4 months ago
Holds Alex Imas
Same subject: AGI
A language model is no substitute for a well-specified conventional algorithm, so it cannot simply be dropped into a complex problem and trusted.
Last stated 7 Jun 2025 · a year ago
Holds Gary Marcus
Same subject: AGI
A model that could learn effectively from raw bitstrings or bytestrings would be extremely powerful, able to learn from any data modality
Last stated 10 Oct 2023 · 3 years ago
Holds Chip Huyen
Same subject: AI agents
A collection of AI agents does not automatically form a functioning organization any more than a group of smart people does.
Last stated 21 May 2026 · 4 months ago
Holds Rohit Krishnan
Same subject: AI agents
A company cannot be led by machines, because nobody would have recourse against them.
Last stated 15 Sept 2026 · 3 weeks ago
Holds Tobias Lütke
Same subject: AI agents
A computer-using agent needs a machine of its own, or you will spend the day fighting it for the mouse cursor.
Last stated 10 Aug 2026 · 2 months ago
Holds Peter Steinberger
Same subject: LLMs
A badly written AI outbound email is evidence of a bad vendor, not of a limit of AI.
Last stated 1 Jan 2026 · 9 months ago
Holds Jason Lemkin
Same subject: LLMs
A bigger context window does not give you a smarter model; the intelligence of the model is what decides how much of that window it can actually attend to.
Last stated 15 Jul 2026 · 3 months ago
Holds Dex Horthy
Same subject: LLMs
A child who has seen ten cats learns what a machine needs the whole internet of cat photos for, by a learning pathway nobody has solved.
Last stated 10 Aug 2026 · 2 months ago
Holds Fei-Fei Li