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17 connected korrents · 17 moments from 3 Nov 2008 to 4 Oct 2026. Nearly all of them are about aviation .
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Read this korrent: AI may become ever more intelligent without ever becoming conscious, as airplanes fly without growing feathers
AI may become ever more intelligent without ever becoming conscious, as airplanes fly without growing feathers
Last stated 2 years ago
28 Oct 2024
YH
Yuval Noah Harari — holds since 2024-10-28 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A functioning institution is a rare exception and never grows by itself: it was assembled by a founder with good judgement. — tap to centre the map on it
A functioning institution is a rare exception and never grows by itself: it was assembled by a founder with good judgement.
Last stated 8 years ago
9 Jul 2018
SB
Samo Burja — holds since 2018-07-09 — tap for who they are
Same subject: AI systems should be understood as something between airplanes and humans, since it can no longer be assumed they lack humanlike motivations. — tap to centre the map on it
AI systems should be understood as something between airplanes and humans, since it can no longer be assumed they lack humanlike motivations.
Last stated 2 months ago
1 Sept 2026
SA
Scott Alexander — holds since 2026-09-01 — tap for who they are
Same subject: AI's energy use is an easier end-use to decarbonize than aviation. — tap to centre the map on it
AI's energy use is an easier end-use to decarbonize than aviation.
Last stated 3 months ago
5 Aug 2026
ZH
Zeke Hausfather — holds since 2026-08-05 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Airplanes are already almost as energy-efficient as they could possibly be, so no redesign will radically improve their efficiency. — tap to centre the map on it
Airplanes are already almost as energy-efficient as they could possibly be, so no redesign will radically improve their efficiency.
Last stated 18 years ago
3 Nov 2008
DM
David MacKay — holds since 2008-11-03 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Because software is the cheapest part of a system to change, other disciplines lean on it to paper over their own physical problems, and that reliance has killed people. — tap to centre the map on it
Because software is the cheapest part of a system to change, other disciplines lean on it to paper over their own physical problems, and that reliance has killed people.
Last stated 6 years ago
20 Jan 2021
HW
Hillel Wayne — holds since 2021-01-20 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Boeing's decline began when its management moved away from the factory and the engineers stopped running it. — tap to centre the map on it
Boeing's decline began when its management moved away from the factory and the engineers stopped running it.
Last stated 5 years ago
31 Aug 2021
AV
Austin Vernon — holds since 2021-08-31 — tap for who they are
Same subject: By 2045 natural gas will be a fuel for aviation, shipping and industrial heat rather than a way of making electricity. — tap to centre the map on it
By 2045 natural gas will be a fuel for aviation, shipping and industrial heat rather than a way of making electricity.
Last stated 10 months ago
8 Dec 2025
CH
Casey Handmer — holds since 2025-12-08 — tap for who they are
Same subject: China will substantially close its strategic technology gaps, including in chips and aviation. — tap to centre the map on it
China will substantially close its strategic technology gaps, including in chips and aviation.
Last stated 3 years ago
18 Jul 2023
DW
Dan Wang — holds since 2023-07-18 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A mystical state defies expression, so its quality must be experienced directly and cannot be passed on to others — tap to centre the map on it
A mystical state defies expression, so its quality must be experienced directly and cannot be passed on to others
WJ
William James — holds since c. 1902 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A person is best understood as a loose jumble of barely intelligent, looping processes producing only the illusion of coherent subjectivity. — tap to centre the map on it
A person is best understood as a loose jumble of barely intelligent, looping processes producing only the illusion of coherent subjectivity.
Last stated a month ago
18 Sept 2026
MW
Matt Webb — holds since 2026-09-18 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A sense of coherent consciousness arises from experience being compressed into a single thread rather than from the brain's full underlying activity. — tap to centre the map on it
A sense of coherent consciousness arises from experience being compressed into a single thread rather than from the brain's full underlying activity.
Last stated 9 months ago
4 Feb 2026
SW
Stephen Wolfram — holds since 2026-02-04 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Humanity has not yet created a conscious computer program — tap to centre the map on it
Humanity has not yet created a conscious computer program
Last stated 3 weeks ago
4 Oct 2026
FC
François Chollet — holds since 2026-10-04 — tap for who they are
Same subject: It is far from clear that LLMs are conscious, because their architecture is very different from animal brains — tap to centre the map on it
It is far from clear that LLMs are conscious, because their architecture is very different from animal brains
Last stated 3 weeks ago
3 Oct 2026
RN
Ramez Naam — holds since 2026-10-03 — tap for who they are
Same subject: It is unclear whether a digital emulation of a person could ever be conscious, even in principle. — tap to centre the map on it
It is unclear whether a digital emulation of a person could ever be conscious, even in principle.
Last stated 3 years ago
19 Aug 2023
JF
Jacob Falkovich — holds since 2023-08-19 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A data centre powered by solar and batteries alone needs an array so oversized that the design is not worth building. — tap to centre the map on it
A data centre powered by solar and batteries alone needs an array so oversized that the design is not worth building.
Last stated 3 years ago
18 Apr 2024
AV
Austin Vernon — holds since 2024-04-18 — tap for who they are
Same subject: About a fifth of the US grid could be freed for data centres just by covering the yearly peak with batteries or peaker plants. — tap to centre the map on it
About a fifth of the US grid could be freed for data centres just by covering the yearly peak with batteries or peaker plants.
Last stated 7 months ago
13 Mar 2026
DP
Dylan Patel — holds since 2026-03-13 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Apple's risk is being reduced to hardware: people keep buying the best phone while everything they do on it comes from someone else's model. — tap to centre the map on it
Apple's risk is being reduced to hardware: people keep buying the best phone while everything they do on it comes from someone else's model.
Last stated a year ago
2 Sept 2025
BE
Benedict Evans — holds since 2025-09-02 — tap for who they are
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AI may become ever more intelligent without ever becoming conscious, as airplanes fly without growing feathers
Last stated 28 Oct 2024 · 2 years ago
Holds Yuval Noah Harari
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Same subject: aviation
A functioning institution is a rare exception and never grows by itself: it was assembled by a founder with good judgement.
Last stated 9 Jul 2018 · 8 years ago
Holds Samo Burja
Same subject: aviation
AI systems should be understood as something between airplanes and humans, since it can no longer be assumed they lack humanlike motivations.
Last stated 1 Sept 2026 · 2 months ago
Holds Scott Alexander
Same subject: aviation
AI's energy use is an easier end-use to decarbonize than aviation.
Last stated 5 Aug 2026 · 3 months ago
Holds Zeke Hausfather
Same subject: aviation
Airplanes are already almost as energy-efficient as they could possibly be, so no redesign will radically improve their efficiency.
Last stated 3 Nov 2008 · 18 years ago
Holds David MacKay
Same subject: aviation
Because software is the cheapest part of a system to change, other disciplines lean on it to paper over their own physical problems, and that reliance has killed people.
Last stated 20 Jan 2021 · 6 years ago
Holds Hillel Wayne
Same subject: aviation
Boeing's decline began when its management moved away from the factory and the engineers stopped running it.
Last stated 31 Aug 2021 · 5 years ago
Holds Austin Vernon
Same subject: aviation
By 2045 natural gas will be a fuel for aviation, shipping and industrial heat rather than a way of making electricity.
Last stated 8 Dec 2025 · 10 months ago
Holds Casey Handmer
Same subject: aviation
China will substantially close its strategic technology gaps, including in chips and aviation.
Last stated 18 Jul 2023 · 3 years ago
Holds Dan Wang
Same subject: consciousness
A mystical state defies expression, so its quality must be experienced directly and cannot be passed on to others
Last stated c. 1902
Holds William James
Same subject: consciousness
A person is best understood as a loose jumble of barely intelligent, looping processes producing only the illusion of coherent subjectivity.
Last stated 18 Sept 2026 · a month ago
Holds Matt Webb
Same subject: consciousness
A sense of coherent consciousness arises from experience being compressed into a single thread rather than from the brain's full underlying activity.
Last stated 4 Feb 2026 · 9 months ago
Holds Stephen Wolfram
Same subject: AI sentience
Humanity has not yet created a conscious computer program
Last stated 4 Oct 2026 · 3 weeks ago
Holds François Chollet
Same subject: AI sentience
It is far from clear that LLMs are conscious, because their architecture is very different from animal brains
Last stated 3 Oct 2026 · 3 weeks ago
Holds Ramez Naam
Same subject: AI sentience
It is unclear whether a digital emulation of a person could ever be conscious, even in principle.
Last stated 19 Aug 2023 · 3 years ago
Holds Jacob Falkovich
Same subject: batteries
A data centre powered by solar and batteries alone needs an array so oversized that the design is not worth building.
Last stated 18 Apr 2024 · 3 years ago
Holds Austin Vernon
Same subject: batteries
About a fifth of the US grid could be freed for data centres just by covering the yearly peak with batteries or peaker plants.
Last stated 13 Mar 2026 · 7 months ago
Holds Dylan Patel
Same subject: batteries
Apple's risk is being reduced to hardware: people keep buying the best phone while everything they do on it comes from someone else's model.
Last stated 2 Sept 2025 · a year ago
Holds Benedict Evans