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Read this korrent: The engineering that lives in engineers’ spreadsheets is really baby software, and it should be written as real software, with the testing and integration that implies.
The engineering that lives in engineers’ spreadsheets is really baby software, and it should be written as real software, with the testing and integration that implies.
Last stated 3 months ago
28 Jul 2026
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Blake Scholl — holds since 2026-07-28 — tap for who they are
Same subject: People who worked as traditional engineers before moving into software say that software engineering is real engineering. — tap to centre the map on it
People who worked as traditional engineers before moving into software say that software engineering is real engineering.
Last stated 6 years ago
18 Jan 2021
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Hillel Wayne — holds since 2021-01-18 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Software engineers behave as though the world exists in the repository, and it does not: the world is production. — tap to centre the map on it
Software engineers behave as though the world exists in the repository, and it does not: the world is production.
Last stated 2 months ago
12 Aug 2026
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Charity Majors — holds since 2026-08-12 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Software is not less rigorous than traditional engineering; its record-keeping and automated verification are better than most of that field's. — tap to centre the map on it
Software is not less rigorous than traditional engineering; its record-keeping and automated verification are better than most of that field's.
Last stated 6 years ago
20 Jan 2021
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Hillel Wayne — holds since 2021-01-20 — tap for who they are
Same subject: He is a software writer, not a software engineer, and the engineering label flattens what most programmers actually do. — tap to centre the map on it
He is a software writer, not a software engineer, and the engineering label flattens what most programmers actually do.
Last stated a year ago
12 Jul 2025
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David Heinemeier Hansson — holds since 2025-07-12 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Engineers are sceptical of formal methods because they were burned by CASE and UML, sold as miracle solutions and imposed on them regardless of fit. — tap to centre the map on it
Engineers are sceptical of formal methods because they were burned by CASE and UML, sold as miracle solutions and imposed on them regardless of fit.
Last stated 3 months ago
29 Jul 2026
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Hillel Wayne — holds since 2026-07-29 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Some of the other AI companies have not written down the spreadsheet — they are committing hundreds of billions without understanding the risk. — tap to centre the map on it
Some of the other AI companies have not written down the spreadsheet — they are committing hundreds of billions without understanding the risk.
Last stated 8 months ago
13 Feb 2026
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Dario Amodei — holds since 2026-02-13 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A test checks a handful of examples; a proof settles an infinite state space, which is why formal methods can say things testing never can. — tap to centre the map on it
A test checks a handful of examples; a proof settles an infinite state space, which is why formal methods can say things testing never can.
Last stated 6 months ago
22 Apr 2026
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Martin Kleppmann — holds since 2026-04-22 — tap for who they are
Same subject: AI is making formal methods more popular without making them mainstream, moving them from about a tenth of a per cent of engineers to three tenths. — tap to centre the map on it
AI is making formal methods more popular without making them mainstream, moving them from about a tenth of a per cent of engineers to three tenths.
Last stated 3 months ago
29 Jul 2026
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Hillel Wayne — holds since 2026-07-29 — tap for who they are
Same subject: AI will increasingly produce mathematical proofs, just as it already writes most code. — tap to centre the map on it
AI will increasingly produce mathematical proofs, just as it already writes most code.
Last stated a month ago
11 Sept 2026
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Daniel Lemire — holds since 2026-09-11 — tap for who they are
Same subject: 95 percent of the software made in an age of abundance will be shitty, and shitty software is easy to deal with because it goes away. — tap to centre the map on it
95 percent of the software made in an age of abundance will be shitty, and shitty software is easy to deal with because it goes away.
Last stated 4 weeks ago
23 Sept 2026
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Geoff Teehan — holds since 2026-09-23 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A coding agent left to run over a weekend returns work that is half good, a quarter garbage and a quarter in need of repair. — tap to centre the map on it
A coding agent left to run over a weekend returns work that is half good, a quarter garbage and a quarter in need of repair.
Last stated a year ago
18 Aug 2025
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Clay Bavor — holds since 2025-08-18 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A developer using AI coding tools remains responsible for reviewing the code they ship. — tap to centre the map on it
A developer using AI coding tools remains responsible for reviewing the code they ship.
Last stated 7 months ago
10 Mar 2026
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Jon Seager — holds since 2026-03-10 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A model can now port essentially any codebase from one programming language to another, work that used to take a team over a year. — tap to centre the map on it
A model can now port essentially any codebase from one programming language to another, work that used to take a team over a year.
Last stated 3 months ago
27 Jul 2026
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Boris Cherny — holds since 2026-07-27 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Agents are the new compilers that compile intent into fast software. — tap to centre the map on it
Agents are the new compilers that compile intent into fast software.
Last stated a month ago
12 Sept 2026
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Guillermo Rauch — holds since 2026-09-12 — tap for who they are
Same subject: AI acceleration threatens 'less software': without the constraint of scarce hours, even 37signals will likely build too much. — tap to centre the map on it
AI acceleration threatens 'less software': without the constraint of scarce hours, even 37signals will likely build too much.
Last stated 3 months ago
26 Jul 2026
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David Heinemeier Hansson — holds since 2026-07-26 — tap for who they are
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The engineering that lives in engineers’ spreadsheets is really baby software, and it should be written as real software, with the testing and integration that implies.
Last stated 28 Jul 2026 · 3 months ago
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People who worked as traditional engineers before moving into software say that software engineering is real engineering.
Last stated 18 Jan 2021 · 6 years ago
Holds Hillel Wayne
Similar wording
Software engineers behave as though the world exists in the repository, and it does not: the world is production.
Last stated 12 Aug 2026 · 2 months ago
Holds Charity Majors
Similar wording
Software is not less rigorous than traditional engineering; its record-keeping and automated verification are better than most of that field's.
Last stated 20 Jan 2021 · 6 years ago
Holds Hillel Wayne
Similar wording
He is a software writer, not a software engineer, and the engineering label flattens what most programmers actually do.
Last stated 12 Jul 2025 · a year ago
Holds David Heinemeier Hansson
Similar wording
Engineers are sceptical of formal methods because they were burned by CASE and UML, sold as miracle solutions and imposed on them regardless of fit.
Last stated 29 Jul 2026 · 3 months ago
Holds Hillel Wayne
Similar wording
Some of the other AI companies have not written down the spreadsheet — they are committing hundreds of billions without understanding the risk.
Last stated 13 Feb 2026 · 8 months ago
Holds Dario Amodei
Same subject: formal proof
A test checks a handful of examples; a proof settles an infinite state space, which is why formal methods can say things testing never can.
Last stated 22 Apr 2026 · 6 months ago
Holds Martin Kleppmann
Same subject: formal proof
AI is making formal methods more popular without making them mainstream, moving them from about a tenth of a per cent of engineers to three tenths.
Last stated 29 Jul 2026 · 3 months ago
Holds Hillel Wayne
Same subject: formal proof
AI will increasingly produce mathematical proofs, just as it already writes most code.
Last stated 11 Sept 2026 · a month ago
Holds Daniel Lemire
Same subject: software quality
95 percent of the software made in an age of abundance will be shitty, and shitty software is easy to deal with because it goes away.
Last stated 23 Sept 2026 · 4 weeks ago
Holds Geoff Teehan
Same subject: software quality
A coding agent left to run over a weekend returns work that is half good, a quarter garbage and a quarter in need of repair.
Last stated 18 Aug 2025 · a year ago
Holds Clay Bavor
Same subject: software quality
A developer using AI coding tools remains responsible for reviewing the code they ship.
Last stated 10 Mar 2026 · 7 months ago
Holds Jon Seager
Same subject: code generation
A model can now port essentially any codebase from one programming language to another, work that used to take a team over a year.
Last stated 27 Jul 2026 · 3 months ago
Holds Boris Cherny
Same subject: code generation
Agents are the new compilers that compile intent into fast software.
Last stated 12 Sept 2026 · a month ago
Holds Guillermo Rauch
Same subject: code generation
AI acceleration threatens 'less software': without the constraint of scarce hours, even 37signals will likely build too much.
Last stated 26 Jul 2026 · 3 months ago
Holds David Heinemeier Hansson