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Everything filed under formal proof formal proof Everything filed under AI writing AI writing Everything filed under code generation code generation Everything filed under mathematics mathematics Same subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subject Read this korrent: Full formal verification is a waste of money for most software: near-perfect is reachable with ordinary techniques at a fraction of the cost. Full formal verification is a waste ofmoney for most software: near-perfect isreachable with ordinary techniques at afraction of the cost. Last stated 8 years ago 21 Jan 2019 HW Hillel Wayne — holds since 2019-01-21 — tap for who they are Same subject: AI-written code makes formal proof necessary, because human review of all that generated code becomes the bottleneck. — tap to centre the map on it AI-written code makes formal proofnecessary, because human review ofall that generated code becomes thebottleneck. Last stated 5 months ago 22 Apr 2026 MK Martin Kleppmann — holds since 2026-04-22 — tap for who they are Same subject: Formal verification is about to become economical, because models are getting good enough at writing the proofs that humans no longer have to. — tap to centre the map on it Formal verification is about tobecome economical, because modelsare getting good enough at writingthe proofs that humans no longerhave to. Last stated 5 months ago 22 Apr 2026 MK Martin Kleppmann — holds since 2026-04-22 — tap for who they are Same subject: Formalising a proof in Lean currently takes about ten times the effort of writing it out: doable, but annoying. — tap to centre the map on it Formalising a proof in Leancurrently takes about ten times theeffort of writing it out: doable,but annoying. Last stated a year ago 14 Jun 2025 TT Terence Tao — holds since 2025-06-14 — tap for who they are Same subject: Nuclear power plants, the standard example of software that must be proved correct, do not care about formal verification: thorough testing is enough for them. — tap to centre the map on it Nuclear power plants, the standardexample of software that must beproved correct, do not care aboutformal verification: thoroughtesting is enough for them. Last stated a month ago 29 Jul 2026 HW Hillel Wayne — holds since 2026-07-29 — tap for who they are Same subject: When formalising a proof costs no more than writing it, mathematics will flip: papers written in Lean first, and journals refereeing only for significance because correctness is certified. — tap to centre the map on it When formalising a proof costs nomore than writing it, mathematicswill flip: papers written in Leanfirst, and journals refereeing onlyfor significance because correctnessis certified. Last stated a year ago 14 Jun 2025 TT Terence Tao — holds since 2025-06-14 — tap for who they are Same subject: The hard part of verification is not proving the code correct but working out what the specification should say. — tap to centre the map on it The hard part of verification is notproving the code correct but workingout what the specification shouldsay. Last stated 8 years ago 21 Jan 2019 HW Hillel Wayne — holds since 2019-01-21 — tap for who they are Same subject: There is a permanent trade-off in verification: an expressive language is hard to prove things about, and a language that is easy to prove things about is hard to write in. — tap to centre the map on it There is a permanent trade-off inverification: an expressive languageis hard to prove things about, and alanguage that is easy to provethings about is hard to write in. Last stated 8 years ago 21 Jan 2019 HW Hillel Wayne — holds since 2019-01-21 — tap for who they are Same subject: Software is not less rigorous than traditional engineering; its record-keeping and automated verification are better than most of that field's. — tap to centre the map on it Software is not less rigorous thantraditional engineering; itsrecord-keeping and automatedverification are better than most ofthat field's. Last stated 6 years ago 20 Jan 2021 HW Hillel Wayne — holds since 2021-01-20 — tap for who they are Same subject: AI acceleration threatens 'less software': without the constraint of scarce hours, even 37signals will likely build too much. — tap to centre the map on it AI acceleration threatens 'lesssoftware': without the constraint ofscarce hours, even 37signals willlikely build too much. Last stated a month ago 26 Jul 2026 DH David Heinemeier Hansson — holds since 2026-07-26 — tap for who they are Same subject: Code and files generated by tools are pollution: hand-writing them is worth the effort because the bloat slows everything down for everyone. — tap to centre the map on it Code and files generated by toolsare pollution: hand-writing them isworth the effort because the bloatslows everything down for everyone. Last stated 7 years ago 15 Oct 2019 DS Derek Sivers — holds since 2019-10-15 — tap for who they are Same subject: Every time software has become easier to create, the world has created exponentially more of it, and this time will be no exception. — tap to centre the map on it Every time software has becomeeasier to create, the world hascreated exponentially more of it,and this time will be no exception. Last stated 3 weeks ago 19 Aug 2026 AO Addy Osmani — holds since 2026-08-19 — tap for who they are Same subject: A proof and an explanation are different things, and a theorem can stay an unsolved expository problem long after it is proved. — tap to centre the map on it A proof and an explanation aredifferent things, and a theorem canstay an unsolved expository problemlong after it is proved. Last stated 2 months ago 30 Jun 2026 GS Grant Sanderson — holds since 2026-06-30 — tap for who they are Same subject: A stream of AI-written papers with any error rate at all becomes insufferable, because finding the error costs more than the paper is worth even at ninety-nine percent. — tap to centre the map on it A stream of AI-written papers withany error rate at all becomesinsufferable, because finding theerror costs more than the paper isworth even at ninety-nine percent. Last stated 2 months ago 30 Jun 2026 GS Grant Sanderson — holds since 2026-06-30 — tap for who they are Same subject: Academic credentials — grades, major, the prestige of the degree — barely matter to industry hiring. — tap to centre the map on it Academic credentials — grades,major, the prestige of the degree —barely matter to industry hiring. Last stated 15 years ago 28 Oct 2011 PM Patrick McKenzie — holds since 2011-10-28 — tap for who they are Same subject: AI-generated writing tends to repeat the same themes, names, and underlying ideas across different outputs. — tap to centre the map on it AI-generated writing tends to repeatthe same themes, names, andunderlying ideas across differentoutputs. Last stated a week ago 31 Aug 2026 EM Ethan Mollick — holds since 2026-08-31 — tap for who they are Same subject: AI-written prose is an inferior read because a model emits a statistical average -- code's audience is a machine, writing's audience is people. — tap to centre the map on it AI-written prose is an inferior readbecause a model emits a statisticalaverage -- code's audience is amachine, writing's audience ispeople. Last stated a week ago 1 Sept 2026 GO Gergely Orosz — holds since 2026-09-01 — tap for who they are Same subject: An AI-written cover letter reads as slop to the person receiving fifty of them, so do not send one. — tap to centre the map on it An AI-written cover letter reads asslop to the person receiving fiftyof them, so do not send one. Last stated 2 years ago 18 Sept 2024 DH David Heinemeier Hansson — holds since 2024-09-18 — tap for who they are
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At the centre Full formal verification is a waste of money for most software: near-perfect is reachable with ordinary techniques at a fraction of the cost. Last stated 21 Jan 2019 · 8 years ago Holds Hillel Wayne Read this korrent →