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Everything filed under formal proof formal proof Everything filed under code generation code generation Everything filed under mathematics mathematics Everything filed under nuclear power nuclear power Everything filed under software quality software quality Same subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subject Read this korrent: Full formal verification is a waste of money for most software: near-perfect is reachable with ordinary techniques at a fraction of the cost. Full formal verification is a waste ofmoney for most software: near-perfect isreachable with ordinary techniques at afraction of the cost. Last stated 8 years ago 21 Jan 2019 HW Hillel Wayne — holds since 2019-01-21 — tap for who they are Same subject: AI-written code makes formal proof necessary, because human review of all that generated code becomes the bottleneck. — tap to centre the map on it AI-written code makes formal proofnecessary, because human review ofall that generated code becomes thebottleneck. Last stated 6 months ago 22 Apr 2026 MK Martin Kleppmann — holds since 2026-04-22 — tap for who they are Same subject: Formal verification is about to become economical, because models are getting good enough at writing the proofs that humans no longer have to. — tap to centre the map on it Formal verification is about tobecome economical, because modelsare getting good enough at writingthe proofs that humans no longerhave to. Last stated 6 months ago 22 Apr 2026 MK Martin Kleppmann — holds since 2026-04-22 — tap for who they are Same subject: Formalising a proof in Lean currently takes about ten times the effort of writing it out: doable, but annoying. — tap to centre the map on it Formalising a proof in Leancurrently takes about ten times theeffort of writing it out: doable,but annoying. Last stated a year ago 14 Jun 2025 TT Terence Tao — holds since 2025-06-14 — tap for who they are Same subject: Nuclear power plants, the standard example of software that must be proved correct, do not care about formal verification: thorough testing is enough for them. — tap to centre the map on it Nuclear power plants, the standardexample of software that must beproved correct, do not care aboutformal verification: thoroughtesting is enough for them. Last stated 3 months ago 29 Jul 2026 HW Hillel Wayne — holds since 2026-07-29 — tap for who they are Same subject: When formalising a proof costs no more than writing it, mathematics will flip: papers written in Lean first, and journals refereeing only for significance because correctness is certified. — tap to centre the map on it When formalising a proof costs nomore than writing it, mathematicswill flip: papers written in Leanfirst, and journals refereeing onlyfor significance because correctnessis certified. Last stated a year ago 14 Jun 2025 TT Terence Tao — holds since 2025-06-14 — tap for who they are Same subject: The hard part of verification is not proving the code correct but working out what the specification should say. — tap to centre the map on it The hard part of verification is notproving the code correct but workingout what the specification shouldsay. Last stated 8 years ago 21 Jan 2019 HW Hillel Wayne — holds since 2019-01-21 — tap for who they are Same subject: There is a permanent trade-off in verification: an expressive language is hard to prove things about, and a language that is easy to prove things about is hard to write in. — tap to centre the map on it There is a permanent trade-off inverification: an expressive languageis hard to prove things about, and alanguage that is easy to provethings about is hard to write in. Last stated 8 years ago 21 Jan 2019 HW Hillel Wayne — holds since 2019-01-21 — tap for who they are Same subject: Software is not less rigorous than traditional engineering; its record-keeping and automated verification are better than most of that field's. — tap to centre the map on it Software is not less rigorous thantraditional engineering; itsrecord-keeping and automatedverification are better than most ofthat field's. Last stated 6 years ago 20 Jan 2021 HW Hillel Wayne — holds since 2021-01-20 — tap for who they are Same subject: A persistently rising dividend yield eventually forces capital appreciation as the market rerates the stock. — tap to centre the map on it A persistently rising dividend yieldeventually forces capitalappreciation as the market reratesthe stock. Last stated 8 months ago 3 Mar 2026 SB Sanjay Bakshi — holds since 2026-03-03 — tap for who they are Same subject: A proof and an explanation are different things, and a theorem can stay an unsolved expository problem long after it is proved. — tap to centre the map on it A proof and an explanation aredifferent things, and a theorem canstay an unsolved expository problemlong after it is proved. Last stated 4 months ago 30 Jun 2026 GS Grant Sanderson — holds since 2026-06-30 — tap for who they are Same subject: A stream of AI-written papers with any error rate at all becomes insufferable, because finding the error costs more than the paper is worth even at ninety-nine percent. — tap to centre the map on it A stream of AI-written papers withany error rate at all becomesinsufferable, because finding theerror costs more than the paper isworth even at ninety-nine percent. Last stated 4 months ago 30 Jun 2026 GS Grant Sanderson — holds since 2026-06-30 — tap for who they are Same subject: A model can now port essentially any codebase from one programming language to another, work that used to take a team over a year. — tap to centre the map on it A model can now port essentially anycodebase from one programminglanguage to another, work that usedto take a team over a year. Last stated 3 months ago 27 Jul 2026 BC Boris Cherny — holds since 2026-07-27 — tap for who they are Same subject: Agents are the new compilers that compile intent into fast software. — tap to centre the map on it Agents are the new compilers thatcompile intent into fast software. Last stated a month ago 12 Sept 2026 GR Guillermo Rauch — holds since 2026-09-12 — tap for who they are Same subject: AI acceleration threatens 'less software': without the constraint of scarce hours, even 37signals will likely build too much. — tap to centre the map on it AI acceleration threatens 'lesssoftware': without the constraint ofscarce hours, even 37signals willlikely build too much. Last stated 3 months ago 26 Jul 2026 DH David Heinemeier Hansson — holds since 2026-07-26 — tap for who they are Same subject: America stopped building reactors because Three Mile Island was mismanaged as a public-relations event, not because anyone was harmed by it. — tap to centre the map on it America stopped building reactorsbecause Three Mile Island wasmismanaged as a public-relationsevent, not because anyone was harmedby it. Last stated 2 months ago 15 Aug 2026 IT Isaiah Taylor — holds since 2026-08-15 — tap for who they are Same subject: American manufacturing output cannot meaningfully rise without first building large amounts of new electricity generation. — tap to centre the map on it American manufacturing output cannotmeaningfully rise without firstbuilding large amounts of newelectricity generation. Last stated 2 years ago 6 Apr 2025 MH Molson Hart — holds since 2025-04-06 — tap for who they are Same subject: Americans have repeatedly overreacted drastically to real problems like DDT, Y2K, and nuclear power, swept up in fear after one vivid incident. — tap to centre the map on it Americans have repeatedlyoverreacted drastically to realproblems like DDT, Y2K, and nuclearpower, swept up in fear after onevivid incident. Last stated 2 months ago 1 Sept 2026 TC Tyler Cowen — holds since 2026-09-01 — tap for who they are
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At the centre Full formal verification is a waste of money for most software: near-perfect is reachable with ordinary techniques at a fraction of the cost. Last stated 21 Jan 2019 · 8 years ago Holds Hillel Wayne Read this korrent →