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Read this korrent: Full formal verification is a waste of money for most software: near-perfect is reachable with ordinary techniques at a fraction of the cost.
Full formal verification is a waste of money for most software: near-perfect is reachable with ordinary techniques at a fraction of the cost.
Last stated 8 years ago
21 Jan 2019
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Hillel Wayne — holds since 2019-01-21 — tap for who they are
Same subject: AI-written code makes formal proof necessary, because human review of all that generated code becomes the bottleneck. — tap to centre the map on it
AI-written code makes formal proof necessary, because human review of all that generated code becomes the bottleneck.
Last stated 6 months ago
22 Apr 2026
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Martin Kleppmann — holds since 2026-04-22 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Formal verification is about to become economical, because models are getting good enough at writing the proofs that humans no longer have to. — tap to centre the map on it
Formal verification is about to become economical, because models are getting good enough at writing the proofs that humans no longer have to.
Last stated 6 months ago
22 Apr 2026
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Martin Kleppmann — holds since 2026-04-22 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Formalising a proof in Lean currently takes about ten times the effort of writing it out: doable, but annoying. — tap to centre the map on it
Formalising a proof in Lean currently takes about ten times the effort of writing it out: doable, but annoying.
Last stated a year ago
14 Jun 2025
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Terence Tao — holds since 2025-06-14 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Nuclear power plants, the standard example of software that must be proved correct, do not care about formal verification: thorough testing is enough for them. — tap to centre the map on it
Nuclear power plants, the standard example of software that must be proved correct, do not care about formal verification: thorough testing is enough for them.
Last stated 3 months ago
29 Jul 2026
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Hillel Wayne — holds since 2026-07-29 — tap for who they are
Same subject: When formalising a proof costs no more than writing it, mathematics will flip: papers written in Lean first, and journals refereeing only for significance because correctness is certified. — tap to centre the map on it
When formalising a proof costs no more than writing it, mathematics will flip: papers written in Lean first, and journals refereeing only for significance because correctness is certified.
Last stated a year ago
14 Jun 2025
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Terence Tao — holds since 2025-06-14 — tap for who they are
Same subject: The hard part of verification is not proving the code correct but working out what the specification should say. — tap to centre the map on it
The hard part of verification is not proving the code correct but working out what the specification should say.
Last stated 8 years ago
21 Jan 2019
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Hillel Wayne — holds since 2019-01-21 — tap for who they are
Same subject: There is a permanent trade-off in verification: an expressive language is hard to prove things about, and a language that is easy to prove things about is hard to write in. — tap to centre the map on it
There is a permanent trade-off in verification: an expressive language is hard to prove things about, and a language that is easy to prove things about is hard to write in.
Last stated 8 years ago
21 Jan 2019
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Hillel Wayne — holds since 2019-01-21 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Software is not less rigorous than traditional engineering; its record-keeping and automated verification are better than most of that field's. — tap to centre the map on it
Software is not less rigorous than traditional engineering; its record-keeping and automated verification are better than most of that field's.
Last stated 6 years ago
20 Jan 2021
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Hillel Wayne — holds since 2021-01-20 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A persistently rising dividend yield eventually forces capital appreciation as the market rerates the stock. — tap to centre the map on it
A persistently rising dividend yield eventually forces capital appreciation as the market rerates the stock.
Last stated 8 months ago
3 Mar 2026
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Sanjay Bakshi — holds since 2026-03-03 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A proof and an explanation are different things, and a theorem can stay an unsolved expository problem long after it is proved. — tap to centre the map on it
A proof and an explanation are different things, and a theorem can stay an unsolved expository problem long after it is proved.
Last stated 4 months ago
30 Jun 2026
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Grant Sanderson — holds since 2026-06-30 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A stream of AI-written papers with any error rate at all becomes insufferable, because finding the error costs more than the paper is worth even at ninety-nine percent. — tap to centre the map on it
A stream of AI-written papers with any error rate at all becomes insufferable, because finding the error costs more than the paper is worth even at ninety-nine percent.
Last stated 4 months ago
30 Jun 2026
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Grant Sanderson — holds since 2026-06-30 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A model can now port essentially any codebase from one programming language to another, work that used to take a team over a year. — tap to centre the map on it
A model can now port essentially any codebase from one programming language to another, work that used to take a team over a year.
Last stated 3 months ago
27 Jul 2026
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Boris Cherny — holds since 2026-07-27 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Agents are the new compilers that compile intent into fast software. — tap to centre the map on it
Agents are the new compilers that compile intent into fast software.
Last stated a month ago
12 Sept 2026
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Guillermo Rauch — holds since 2026-09-12 — tap for who they are
Same subject: AI acceleration threatens 'less software': without the constraint of scarce hours, even 37signals will likely build too much. — tap to centre the map on it
AI acceleration threatens 'less software': without the constraint of scarce hours, even 37signals will likely build too much.
Last stated 3 months ago
26 Jul 2026
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David Heinemeier Hansson — holds since 2026-07-26 — tap for who they are
Same subject: America stopped building reactors because Three Mile Island was mismanaged as a public-relations event, not because anyone was harmed by it. — tap to centre the map on it
America stopped building reactors because Three Mile Island was mismanaged as a public-relations event, not because anyone was harmed by it.
Last stated 2 months ago
15 Aug 2026
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Isaiah Taylor — holds since 2026-08-15 — tap for who they are
Same subject: American manufacturing output cannot meaningfully rise without first building large amounts of new electricity generation. — tap to centre the map on it
American manufacturing output cannot meaningfully rise without first building large amounts of new electricity generation.
Last stated 2 years ago
6 Apr 2025
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Molson Hart — holds since 2025-04-06 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Americans have repeatedly overreacted drastically to real problems like DDT, Y2K, and nuclear power, swept up in fear after one vivid incident. — tap to centre the map on it
Americans have repeatedly overreacted drastically to real problems like DDT, Y2K, and nuclear power, swept up in fear after one vivid incident.
Last stated 2 months ago
1 Sept 2026
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Tyler Cowen — holds since 2026-09-01 — tap for who they are
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Full formal verification is a waste of money for most software: near-perfect is reachable with ordinary techniques at a fraction of the cost.
Last stated 21 Jan 2019 · 8 years ago
Holds Hillel Wayne
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Same subject: formal proof
AI-written code makes formal proof necessary, because human review of all that generated code becomes the bottleneck.
Last stated 22 Apr 2026 · 6 months ago
Holds Martin Kleppmann
Same subject: formal proof
Formal verification is about to become economical, because models are getting good enough at writing the proofs that humans no longer have to.
Last stated 22 Apr 2026 · 6 months ago
Holds Martin Kleppmann
Same subject: formal proof
Formalising a proof in Lean currently takes about ten times the effort of writing it out: doable, but annoying.
Last stated 14 Jun 2025 · a year ago
Holds Terence Tao
Same subject: formal proof
Nuclear power plants, the standard example of software that must be proved correct, do not care about formal verification: thorough testing is enough for them.
Last stated 29 Jul 2026 · 3 months ago
Holds Hillel Wayne
Same subject: formal proof
When formalising a proof costs no more than writing it, mathematics will flip: papers written in Lean first, and journals refereeing only for significance because correctness is certified.
Last stated 14 Jun 2025 · a year ago
Holds Terence Tao
Similar wording
The hard part of verification is not proving the code correct but working out what the specification should say.
Last stated 21 Jan 2019 · 8 years ago
Holds Hillel Wayne
Similar wording
There is a permanent trade-off in verification: an expressive language is hard to prove things about, and a language that is easy to prove things about is hard to write in.
Last stated 21 Jan 2019 · 8 years ago
Holds Hillel Wayne
Similar wording
Software is not less rigorous than traditional engineering; its record-keeping and automated verification are better than most of that field's.
Last stated 20 Jan 2021 · 6 years ago
Holds Hillel Wayne
Same subject: mathematics
A persistently rising dividend yield eventually forces capital appreciation as the market rerates the stock.
Last stated 3 Mar 2026 · 8 months ago
Holds Sanjay Bakshi
Same subject: mathematics
A proof and an explanation are different things, and a theorem can stay an unsolved expository problem long after it is proved.
Last stated 30 Jun 2026 · 4 months ago
Holds Grant Sanderson
Same subject: mathematics
A stream of AI-written papers with any error rate at all becomes insufferable, because finding the error costs more than the paper is worth even at ninety-nine percent.
Last stated 30 Jun 2026 · 4 months ago
Holds Grant Sanderson
Same subject: code generation
A model can now port essentially any codebase from one programming language to another, work that used to take a team over a year.
Last stated 27 Jul 2026 · 3 months ago
Holds Boris Cherny
Same subject: code generation
Agents are the new compilers that compile intent into fast software.
Last stated 12 Sept 2026 · a month ago
Holds Guillermo Rauch
Same subject: code generation
AI acceleration threatens 'less software': without the constraint of scarce hours, even 37signals will likely build too much.
Last stated 26 Jul 2026 · 3 months ago
Holds David Heinemeier Hansson
Same subject: nuclear power
America stopped building reactors because Three Mile Island was mismanaged as a public-relations event, not because anyone was harmed by it.
Last stated 15 Aug 2026 · 2 months ago
Holds Isaiah Taylor
Same subject: nuclear power
American manufacturing output cannot meaningfully rise without first building large amounts of new electricity generation.
Last stated 6 Apr 2025 · 2 years ago
Holds Molson Hart
Same subject: nuclear power
Americans have repeatedly overreacted drastically to real problems like DDT, Y2K, and nuclear power, swept up in fear after one vivid incident.
Last stated 1 Sept 2026 · 2 months ago
Holds Tyler Cowen