Founders who fail early tend to attach themselves to that failure and start being defined by it, and the line between success and failure on a first company is very fine.

Founder and former CEO of Zynga

I I definitely think I'm so aware of the fine line between success and failure, especially on your first company. And and and it's so it pains me how much founders and es especially I see it in men, not all men. And I have four sisters and a bunch of daughters. But I would say I see it in a lot in men and and friends, college friends, people I've grown up with that if they had an initial failure, if they had failures, they get attached to it and they start feeling defined by it