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17 connected korrents · 15 moments on record from 24 Oct 2017 to 3 Sept 2026.
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28 Nov 2023
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Scott Alexander — holds since 2023-11-28 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Effective altruism's scandals are minor next to its record, and its ratio of accomplishments to scandals is as good as that of any large institution. — tap to centre the map on it Effective altruism's scandals are minor next to its record, and its ratio of accomplishments to scandals is as good as that of any large institution. Last stated 3 years ago
28 Nov 2023
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Scott Alexander — holds since 2023-11-28 — tap for who they are
Same subject: The more effective altruism has absorbed itself in saving humanity, the less humanistic it has become. — tap to centre the map on it The more effective altruism has absorbed itself in saving humanity, the less humanistic it has become. Last stated 3 years ago
21 Dec 2023
MJ
Matt Johnson — holds since 2023-12-21 — tap for who they are
Same subject: The best opportunities to do good are the ones almost nobody is paying attention to. — tap to centre the map on it The best opportunities to do good are the ones almost nobody is paying attention to. Last stated 3 years ago
28 Nov 2023
HK
Holden Karnofsky — holds since 2022-02-02 — tap for who they are
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Scott Alexander — holds since 2023-11-28 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Effective altruism demands hard evidence of effectiveness in some of its causes while accepting abstract conjecture in others, and never justifies the split. — tap to centre the map on it Effective altruism demands hard evidence of effectiveness in some of its causes while accepting abstract conjecture in others, and never justifies the split. Last stated 3 years ago
21 Dec 2023
MJ
Matt Johnson — holds since 2023-12-21 — tap for who they are
Same subject: The likeliest bad path is not a coup but sloppiness: AI does everything verifiable well, research races ahead, and the subtle work of keeping AI safe is what gets done badly. — tap to centre the map on it The likeliest bad path is not a coup but sloppiness: AI does everything verifiable well, research races ahead, and the subtle work of keeping AI safe is what gets done badly. Last stated 4 weeks ago
11 Aug 2026
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Ryan Greenblatt — holds since 2026-08-11 — tap for who they are
Same subject: AI research is on a good trajectory overall — good for science and good for society — and existential concerns will only become relevant in the distant future. — tap to centre the map on it AI research is on a good trajectory overall — good for science and good for society — and existential concerns will only become relevant in the distant future. Last stated 3 years ago
12 Aug 2023
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Yoshua Bengio — holds since 2023-08-12 — tap for who they are
YB
Yoshua Bengio — no longer holds since 2023-08-12 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Effective altruism is deeply utilitarian in practice, whatever its members say about not being utilitarians. — tap to centre the map on it Effective altruism is deeply utilitarian in practice, whatever its members say about not being utilitarians. Last stated 5 years ago
19 Oct 2021
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Émile P. Torres — holds since 2021-10-19 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Working on how good the long-run future is does not require accepting consequentialism or believing that you should always maximise the good. — tap to centre the map on it Working on how good the long-run future is does not require accepting consequentialism or believing that you should always maximise the good. Last stated a year ago
3 Aug 2025
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William MacAskill — holds since 2025-08-03 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A human being is not an AGI: we lack a huge amount of knowledge and rely on continual learning instead, so continual learning is what superintelligence should mean. — tap to centre the map on it A human being is not an AGI: we lack a huge amount of knowledge and rely on continual learning instead, so continual learning is what superintelligence should mean. Last stated 9 months ago
25 Nov 2025
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Ilya Sutskever — holds since 2025-11-25 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A saboteur among our AI investigators would be hard to spot, because these models are sloppy and spiky enough that a suspicious error just looks like ordinary incompetence. — tap to centre the map on it A saboteur among our AI investigators would be hard to spot, because these models are sloppy and spiky enough that a suspicious error just looks like ordinary incompetence. Last stated 6 days ago
1 Sept 2026
AC
Ajeya Cotra — holds since 2026-09-01 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A superintelligence needs no consciousness, emotions or malice to be dangerous; a goal system slightly misaligned with ours is enough. — tap to centre the map on it A superintelligence needs no consciousness, emotions or malice to be dangerous; a goal system slightly misaligned with ours is enough. Last stated 9 years ago
24 Oct 2017
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Émile P. Torres — holds since 2017-10-24 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A startup should not begin life as a nonprofit and bolt a for-profit arm on later, whatever OpenAI's own history suggests. — tap to centre the map on it A startup should not begin life as a nonprofit and bolt a for-profit arm on later, whatever OpenAI's own history suggests. Last stated 2 years ago
18 Mar 2024
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Sam Altman — holds since 2024-03-18 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A technique that lets an AI model's reasoning shift outside its visible Chain of Thought is dangerous, both because it works and because a leading lab is willing to deploy it. — tap to centre the map on it A technique that lets an AI model's reasoning shift outside its visible Chain of Thought is dangerous, both because it works and because a leading lab is willing to deploy it. Last stated 4 days ago
3 Sept 2026
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Zvi Mowshowitz — holds since 2026-09-03 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A tiny language model inventing a plausible-sounding name is the same phenomenon as a large one confidently stating a false fact. — tap to centre the map on it A tiny language model inventing a plausible-sounding name is the same phenomenon as a large one confidently stating a false fact. Last stated 7 months ago
12 Feb 2026
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Andrej Karpathy — holds since 2026-02-12 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A country outside the AI supply chain should just buy the index — which works only in the world where AI ends up commoditised rather than concentrated. — tap to centre the map on it A country outside the AI supply chain should just buy the index — which works only in the world where AI ends up commoditised rather than concentrated. Last stated 3 months ago
4 Jun 2026
AI
Alex Imas — holds since 2026-06-04 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A language model is no substitute for a well-specified conventional algorithm, so it cannot simply be dropped into a complex problem and trusted. — tap to centre the map on it A language model is no substitute for a well-specified conventional algorithm, so it cannot simply be dropped into a complex problem and trusted. Last stated a year ago
7 Jun 2025
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Gary Marcus — holds since 2025-06-07 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A poor country should prioritise owning a piece of AI over retraining its workers, but it should not bet everything on that. — tap to centre the map on it A poor country should prioritise owning a piece of AI over retraining its workers, but it should not bet everything on that. Last stated 3 months ago
4 Jun 2026
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Phil Trammell — holds since 2026-06-04 — tap for who they are
At the centre
Effective altruism's work on the far future is not a bait and switch hiding behind its work on global health; both halves are worth defending.
Holds SA Scott AlexanderRead this korrent →
Effective altruism's scandals are minor next to its record, and its ratio of accomplishments to scandals is as good as that of any large institution.
Holds SA Scott Alexander
The more effective altruism has absorbed itself in saving humanity, the less humanistic it has become.
Holds MJ Matt Johnson
The best opportunities to do good are the ones almost nobody is paying attention to.
Holds HK Holden KarnofskySA Scott Alexander
Effective altruism demands hard evidence of effectiveness in some of its causes while accepting abstract conjecture in others, and never justifies the split.
Holds MJ Matt Johnson
The likeliest bad path is not a coup but sloppiness: AI does everything verifiable well, research races ahead, and the subtle work of keeping AI safe is what gets done badly.
Holds RG Ryan Greenblatt
AI research is on a good trajectory overall — good for science and good for society — and existential concerns will only become relevant in the distant future.
No longer holds
Effective altruism is deeply utilitarian in practice, whatever its members say about not being utilitarians.
Holds ÉT Émile P. Torres
Working on how good the long-run future is does not require accepting consequentialism or believing that you should always maximise the good.
Holds WM William MacAskill
A human being is not an AGI: we lack a huge amount of knowledge and rely on continual learning instead, so continual learning is what superintelligence should mean.
Holds IS Ilya Sutskever
A saboteur among our AI investigators would be hard to spot, because these models are sloppy and spiky enough that a suspicious error just looks like ordinary incompetence.
Holds AC Ajeya Cotra
A superintelligence needs no consciousness, emotions or malice to be dangerous; a goal system slightly misaligned with ours is enough.
Holds ÉT Émile P. Torres
A startup should not begin life as a nonprofit and bolt a for-profit arm on later, whatever OpenAI's own history suggests.
Holds
A technique that lets an AI model's reasoning shift outside its visible Chain of Thought is dangerous, both because it works and because a leading lab is willing to deploy it.
Holds ZM Zvi Mowshowitz
A tiny language model inventing a plausible-sounding name is the same phenomenon as a large one confidently stating a false fact.
Holds
A country outside the AI supply chain should just buy the index — which works only in the world where AI ends up commoditised rather than concentrated.
Holds AI Alex Imas
A language model is no substitute for a well-specified conventional algorithm, so it cannot simply be dropped into a complex problem and trusted.
Holds GM Gary Marcus
A poor country should prioritise owning a piece of AI over retraining its workers, but it should not bet everything on that.
Holds PT Phil Trammell