A pay package that pays nothing unless the stock rises enormously is a good deal for shareholders, and most chief executives would refuse it.

I would agree to that type of package for every company I've ever worked with, and most CEOs wouldn't take it. Uh, it basically says you don't make money unless the stock goes way up. And if you stock goes way up, you make an obscene amount of money. And I would do that deal over and over and over and over again.