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Read this korrent: There is a permanent trade-off in verification: an expressive language is hard to prove things about, and a language that is easy to prove things about is hard to write in.
There is a permanent trade-off in verification: an expressive language is hard to prove things about, and a language that is easy to prove things about is hard to write in.
Last stated 8 years ago
21 Jan 2019
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Hillel Wayne — holds since 2019-01-21 — tap for who they are
Same subject: The hard part of verification is not proving the code correct but working out what the specification should say. — tap to centre the map on it
The hard part of verification is not proving the code correct but working out what the specification should say.
Last stated 8 years ago
21 Jan 2019
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Hillel Wayne — holds since 2019-01-21 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Formal verification is about to become economical, because models are getting good enough at writing the proofs that humans no longer have to. — tap to centre the map on it
Formal verification is about to become economical, because models are getting good enough at writing the proofs that humans no longer have to.
Last stated 5 months ago
22 Apr 2026
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Martin Kleppmann — holds since 2026-04-22 — tap for who they are
Same subject: AI-written code makes formal proof necessary, because human review of all that generated code becomes the bottleneck. — tap to centre the map on it
AI-written code makes formal proof necessary, because human review of all that generated code becomes the bottleneck.
Last stated 5 months ago
22 Apr 2026
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Martin Kleppmann — holds since 2026-04-22 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Formalisation's real gift is the green check mark — knowing a hard proof is correct before you spend time on it — and every other field would kill for it. — tap to centre the map on it
Formalisation's real gift is the green check mark — knowing a hard proof is correct before you spend time on it — and every other field would kill for it.
Last stated 2 months ago
30 Jun 2026
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Grant Sanderson — holds since 2026-06-30 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Full formal verification is a waste of money for most software: near-perfect is reachable with ordinary techniques at a fraction of the cost. — tap to centre the map on it
Full formal verification is a waste of money for most software: near-perfect is reachable with ordinary techniques at a fraction of the cost.
Last stated 8 years ago
21 Jan 2019
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Hillel Wayne — holds since 2019-01-21 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Large language models do not reason formally: their performance collapses as a problem is made bigger, in the way a calculator's never does. — tap to centre the map on it
Large language models do not reason formally: their performance collapses as a problem is made bigger, in the way a calculator's never does.
Last stated 2 years ago
11 Oct 2024
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Gary Marcus — holds since 2024-10-11 — tap for who they are
Same subject: He prefers languages with expressive type systems and has still never noticed them making him more productive or less bug-prone. — tap to centre the map on it
He prefers languages with expressive type systems and has still never noticed them making him more productive or less bug-prone.
Last stated 12 years ago
7 Nov 2014
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Dan Luu — holds since 2014-11-07 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Formal methods are not used everywhere because for most real problems writing down what the function should do is itself a nightmare, and a program that is right ninety-nine per cent of the time is good enough. — tap to centre the map on it
Formal methods are not used everywhere because for most real problems writing down what the function should do is itself a nightmare, and a program that is right ninety-nine per cent of the time is good enough.
Last stated a month ago
29 Jul 2026
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Hillel Wayne — holds since 2026-07-29 — tap for who they are
Same subject: AI acceleration threatens 'less software': without the constraint of scarce hours, even 37signals will likely build too much. — tap to centre the map on it
AI acceleration threatens 'less software': without the constraint of scarce hours, even 37signals will likely build too much.
Last stated a month ago
26 Jul 2026
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David Heinemeier Hansson — holds since 2026-07-26 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Code and files generated by tools are pollution: hand-writing them is worth the effort because the bloat slows everything down for everyone. — tap to centre the map on it
Code and files generated by tools are pollution: hand-writing them is worth the effort because the bloat slows everything down for everyone.
Last stated 7 years ago
15 Oct 2019
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Derek Sivers — holds since 2019-10-15 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Every time software has become easier to create, the world has created exponentially more of it, and this time will be no exception. — tap to centre the map on it
Every time software has become easier to create, the world has created exponentially more of it, and this time will be no exception.
Last stated 3 weeks ago
19 Aug 2026
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Addy Osmani — holds since 2026-08-19 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A stream of AI-written papers with any error rate at all becomes insufferable, because finding the error costs more than the paper is worth even at ninety-nine percent. — tap to centre the map on it
A stream of AI-written papers with any error rate at all becomes insufferable, because finding the error costs more than the paper is worth even at ninety-nine percent.
Last stated 2 months ago
30 Jun 2026
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Grant Sanderson — holds since 2026-06-30 — tap for who they are
Same subject: AI-generated writing tends to repeat the same themes, names, and underlying ideas across different outputs. — tap to centre the map on it
AI-generated writing tends to repeat the same themes, names, and underlying ideas across different outputs.
Last stated a week ago
31 Aug 2026
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Ethan Mollick — holds since 2026-08-31 — tap for who they are
Same subject: AI-written prose is an inferior read because a model emits a statistical average -- code's audience is a machine, writing's audience is people. — tap to centre the map on it
AI-written prose is an inferior read because a model emits a statistical average -- code's audience is a machine, writing's audience is people.
Last stated 6 days ago
1 Sept 2026
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Gergely Orosz — holds since 2026-09-01 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A company's staff-engineer bar should be set against the best companies in the industry rather than against its own history, which is what makes title inflation a real cost. — tap to centre the map on it
A company's staff-engineer bar should be set against the best companies in the industry rather than against its own history, which is what makes title inflation a real cost.
Last stated 5 months ago
1 Apr 2026
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Thuan Pham — holds since 2026-04-01 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A crewed rocket cannot be made safe by making the booster reliable, so the only real way to improve safety is to carry an escape system. — tap to centre the map on it
A crewed rocket cannot be made safe by making the booster reliable, so the only real way to improve safety is to carry an escape system.
Last stated 3 years ago
14 Dec 2023
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Jeff Bezos — holds since 2023-12-14 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A monopolist that can no longer grow by winning new users can only grow by making its product worse for the users it already has. — tap to centre the map on it
A monopolist that can no longer grow by winning new users can only grow by making its product worse for the users it already has.
Last stated 3 years ago
28 Jul 2023
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Cory Doctorow — holds since 2023-07-28 — tap for who they are
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There is a permanent trade-off in verification: an expressive language is hard to prove things about, and a language that is easy to prove things about is hard to write in.
Last stated 21 Jan 2019 · 8 years ago
Holds HW Hillel Wayne
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The hard part of verification is not proving the code correct but working out what the specification should say.
Last stated 21 Jan 2019 · 8 years ago
Holds HW Hillel Wayne
Similar wording
Formal verification is about to become economical, because models are getting good enough at writing the proofs that humans no longer have to.
Last stated 22 Apr 2026 · 5 months ago
Holds MK Martin Kleppmann
Similar wording
AI-written code makes formal proof necessary, because human review of all that generated code becomes the bottleneck.
Last stated 22 Apr 2026 · 5 months ago
Holds MK Martin Kleppmann
Similar wording
Formalisation's real gift is the green check mark — knowing a hard proof is correct before you spend time on it — and every other field would kill for it.
Last stated 30 Jun 2026 · 2 months ago
Holds GS Grant Sanderson
Similar wording
Full formal verification is a waste of money for most software: near-perfect is reachable with ordinary techniques at a fraction of the cost.
Last stated 21 Jan 2019 · 8 years ago
Holds HW Hillel Wayne
Similar wording
Large language models do not reason formally: their performance collapses as a problem is made bigger, in the way a calculator's never does.
Last stated 11 Oct 2024 · 2 years ago
Holds GM Gary Marcus
Similar wording
He prefers languages with expressive type systems and has still never noticed them making him more productive or less bug-prone.
Last stated 7 Nov 2014 · 12 years ago
Holds DL Dan Luu
Similar wording
Formal methods are not used everywhere because for most real problems writing down what the function should do is itself a nightmare, and a program that is right ninety-nine per cent of the time is good enough.
Last stated 29 Jul 2026 · a month ago
Holds HW Hillel Wayne
Same subject: code generation
AI acceleration threatens 'less software': without the constraint of scarce hours, even 37signals will likely build too much.
Last stated 26 Jul 2026 · a month ago
Holds David Heinemeier Hansson
Same subject: code generation
Code and files generated by tools are pollution: hand-writing them is worth the effort because the bloat slows everything down for everyone.
Last stated 15 Oct 2019 · 7 years ago
Holds Derek Sivers
Same subject: code generation
Every time software has become easier to create, the world has created exponentially more of it, and this time will be no exception.
Last stated 19 Aug 2026 · 3 weeks ago
Holds AO Addy Osmani
Same subject: AI writing
A stream of AI-written papers with any error rate at all becomes insufferable, because finding the error costs more than the paper is worth even at ninety-nine percent.
Last stated 30 Jun 2026 · 2 months ago
Holds GS Grant Sanderson
Same subject: AI writing
AI-generated writing tends to repeat the same themes, names, and underlying ideas across different outputs.
Last stated 31 Aug 2026 · a week ago
Holds EM Ethan Mollick
Same subject: AI writing
AI-written prose is an inferior read because a model emits a statistical average -- code's audience is a machine, writing's audience is people.
Last stated 1 Sept 2026 · 6 days ago
Holds Gergely Orosz
Same subject: Google
A company's staff-engineer bar should be set against the best companies in the industry rather than against its own history, which is what makes title inflation a real cost.
Last stated 1 Apr 2026 · 5 months ago
Holds TP Thuan Pham
Same subject: Google
A crewed rocket cannot be made safe by making the booster reliable, so the only real way to improve safety is to carry an escape system.
Last stated 14 Dec 2023 · 3 years ago
Holds JB Jeff Bezos
Same subject: Google
A monopolist that can no longer grow by winning new users can only grow by making its product worse for the users it already has.
Last stated 28 Jul 2023 · 3 years ago
Holds CD Cory Doctorow