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The engineer-designer-PM pod ratio was an HR artifact of scaling, not something anyone showed a product needed.

Drawn from what Tom Verrilli said

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design How things should be made and judged: what makes a design good, who should do the designing, and what an interface is for.

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  1. Tom Verrilli

    Chief product officer at the live-shopping marketplace Whatnot

    somewhere along the line this kind of HR ratio of like a pod popped into being. You know, every time you hire six engineers, you add a designer or you add a PM, you add an EM

    Where this was said

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    ↗This CPO regrets that product management exists | Tom Verrilli (CPO of Whatnot)youtube.com

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