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Read this korrent: The argument about whether programming is engineering is conducted entirely by people who have never worked as engineers.
The argument about whether programming is engineering is conducted entirely by people who have never worked as engineers.
Last stated 6 years ago
18 Jan 2021
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Hillel Wayne — holds since 2021-01-18 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Programming is mathematical work: it uses discrete mathematics rather than the continuous mathematics people picture when they say maths. — tap to centre the map on it
Programming is mathematical work: it uses discrete mathematics rather than the continuous mathematics people picture when they say maths.
Last stated 6 years ago
18 Jan 2021
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Hillel Wayne — holds since 2021-01-18 — tap for who they are
Same subject: He is a software writer, not a software engineer, and the engineering label flattens what most programmers actually do. — tap to centre the map on it
He is a software writer, not a software engineer, and the engineering label flattens what most programmers actually do.
Last stated a year ago
12 Jul 2025
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David Heinemeier Hansson — holds since 2025-07-12 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Software developers probably are engineers after all, on the evidence of the people who did both jobs -- though that research was done before LLMs. — tap to centre the map on it
Software developers probably are engineers after all, on the evidence of the people who did both jobs -- though that research was done before LLMs.
Last stated 3 months ago
29 Jul 2026
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Hillel Wayne — holds since 2026-07-29 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Much of the wisdom programmers pass on to each other is nonsense that nobody ever tested, and refusing to be dogmatic about untested practice is what marks out a good engineer. — tap to centre the map on it
Much of the wisdom programmers pass on to each other is nonsense that nobody ever tested, and refusing to be dogmatic about untested practice is what marks out a good engineer.
Last stated 2 months ago
26 Aug 2026
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Casey Muratori — holds since 2026-08-26 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Software engineers behave as though the world exists in the repository, and it does not: the world is production. — tap to centre the map on it
Software engineers behave as though the world exists in the repository, and it does not: the world is production.
Last stated 2 months ago
12 Aug 2026
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Charity Majors — holds since 2026-08-12 — tap for who they are
Same subject: People who worked as traditional engineers before moving into software say that software engineering is real engineering. — tap to centre the map on it
People who worked as traditional engineers before moving into software say that software engineering is real engineering.
Last stated 6 years ago
18 Jan 2021
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Hillel Wayne — holds since 2021-01-18 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Programming, not diagramming, is where an engineer actually learns, because code is the point at which you can no longer fool yourself about what you understand. — tap to centre the map on it
Programming, not diagramming, is where an engineer actually learns, because code is the point at which you can no longer fool yourself about what you understand.
Last stated 4 months ago
1 Jul 2026
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Kent Beck — holds since 2026-07-01 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Almost nothing programmers believe is unique to software is actually unique to software. — tap to centre the map on it
Almost nothing programmers believe is unique to software is actually unique to software.
Last stated 6 years ago
20 Jan 2021
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Hillel Wayne — holds since 2021-01-20 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A badly written AI outbound email is evidence of a bad vendor, not of a limit of AI. — tap to centre the map on it
A badly written AI outbound email is evidence of a bad vendor, not of a limit of AI.
Last stated 10 months ago
1 Jan 2026
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Jason Lemkin — holds since 2026-01-01 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A bigger context window does not give you a smarter model; the intelligence of the model is what decides how much of that window it can actually attend to. — tap to centre the map on it
A bigger context window does not give you a smarter model; the intelligence of the model is what decides how much of that window it can actually attend to.
Last stated 3 months ago
15 Jul 2026
DH
Dex Horthy — holds since 2026-07-15 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A body of publications is easy for AI models to consume via pretraining corpora but cumbersome for most humans due to CAPTCHAs, accounts, and paywalls. — tap to centre the map on it
A body of publications is easy for AI models to consume via pretraining corpora but cumbersome for most humans due to CAPTCHAs, accounts, and paywalls.
Last stated a month ago
17 Sept 2026
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Patrick Collison — holds since 2026-09-17 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A persistently rising dividend yield eventually forces capital appreciation as the market rerates the stock. — tap to centre the map on it
A persistently rising dividend yield eventually forces capital appreciation as the market rerates the stock.
Last stated 8 months ago
3 Mar 2026
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Sanjay Bakshi — holds since 2026-03-03 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A proof and an explanation are different things, and a theorem can stay an unsolved expository problem long after it is proved. — tap to centre the map on it
A proof and an explanation are different things, and a theorem can stay an unsolved expository problem long after it is proved.
Last stated 4 months ago
30 Jun 2026
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Grant Sanderson — holds since 2026-06-30 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A stream of AI-written papers with any error rate at all becomes insufferable, because finding the error costs more than the paper is worth even at ninety-nine percent. — tap to centre the map on it
A stream of AI-written papers with any error rate at all becomes insufferable, because finding the error costs more than the paper is worth even at ninety-nine percent.
Last stated 4 months ago
30 Jun 2026
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Grant Sanderson — holds since 2026-06-30 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A PHP vulnerability found with GPT-5.6 Sol will cause havoc this week. — tap to centre the map on it
A PHP vulnerability found with GPT-5.6 Sol will cause havoc this week.
Last stated yesterday
21 Oct 2026
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Peter Steinberger — holds since 2026-10-21 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A startup should not begin life as a nonprofit and bolt a for-profit arm on later, whatever OpenAI's own history suggests. — tap to centre the map on it
A startup should not begin life as a nonprofit and bolt a for-profit arm on later, whatever OpenAI's own history suggests.
Last stated 3 years ago
18 Mar 2024
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Sam Altman — holds since 2024-03-18 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A tiny language model inventing a plausible-sounding name is the same phenomenon as a large one confidently stating a false fact. — tap to centre the map on it
A tiny language model inventing a plausible-sounding name is the same phenomenon as a large one confidently stating a false fact.
Last stated 8 months ago
12 Feb 2026
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Andrej Karpathy — holds since 2026-02-12 — tap for who they are
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The argument about whether programming is engineering is conducted entirely by people who have never worked as engineers.
Last stated 18 Jan 2021 · 6 years ago
Holds Hillel Wayne
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Programming is mathematical work: it uses discrete mathematics rather than the continuous mathematics people picture when they say maths.
Last stated 18 Jan 2021 · 6 years ago
Holds Hillel Wayne
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He is a software writer, not a software engineer, and the engineering label flattens what most programmers actually do.
Last stated 12 Jul 2025 · a year ago
Holds David Heinemeier Hansson
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Software developers probably are engineers after all, on the evidence of the people who did both jobs -- though that research was done before LLMs.
Last stated 29 Jul 2026 · 3 months ago
Holds Hillel Wayne
Similar wording
Much of the wisdom programmers pass on to each other is nonsense that nobody ever tested, and refusing to be dogmatic about untested practice is what marks out a good engineer.
Last stated 26 Aug 2026 · 2 months ago
Holds Casey Muratori
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Software engineers behave as though the world exists in the repository, and it does not: the world is production.
Last stated 12 Aug 2026 · 2 months ago
Holds Charity Majors
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People who worked as traditional engineers before moving into software say that software engineering is real engineering.
Last stated 18 Jan 2021 · 6 years ago
Holds Hillel Wayne
Similar wording
Programming, not diagramming, is where an engineer actually learns, because code is the point at which you can no longer fool yourself about what you understand.
Last stated 1 Jul 2026 · 4 months ago
Holds Kent Beck
Similar wording
Almost nothing programmers believe is unique to software is actually unique to software.
Last stated 20 Jan 2021 · 6 years ago
Holds Hillel Wayne
Same subject: LLMs
A badly written AI outbound email is evidence of a bad vendor, not of a limit of AI.
Last stated 1 Jan 2026 · 10 months ago
Holds Jason Lemkin
Same subject: LLMs
A bigger context window does not give you a smarter model; the intelligence of the model is what decides how much of that window it can actually attend to.
Last stated 15 Jul 2026 · 3 months ago
Holds Dex Horthy
Same subject: LLMs
A body of publications is easy for AI models to consume via pretraining corpora but cumbersome for most humans due to CAPTCHAs, accounts, and paywalls.
Last stated 17 Sept 2026 · a month ago
Holds Patrick Collison
Same subject: mathematics
A persistently rising dividend yield eventually forces capital appreciation as the market rerates the stock.
Last stated 3 Mar 2026 · 8 months ago
Holds Sanjay Bakshi
Same subject: mathematics
A proof and an explanation are different things, and a theorem can stay an unsolved expository problem long after it is proved.
Last stated 30 Jun 2026 · 4 months ago
Holds Grant Sanderson
Same subject: mathematics
A stream of AI-written papers with any error rate at all becomes insufferable, because finding the error costs more than the paper is worth even at ninety-nine percent.
Last stated 30 Jun 2026 · 4 months ago
Holds Grant Sanderson
Same subject: OpenAI
A PHP vulnerability found with GPT-5.6 Sol will cause havoc this week.
Last stated 21 Oct 2026 · yesterday
Holds Peter Steinberger
Same subject: OpenAI
A startup should not begin life as a nonprofit and bolt a for-profit arm on later, whatever OpenAI's own history suggests.
Last stated 18 Mar 2024 · 3 years ago
Holds Sam Altman
Same subject: OpenAI
A tiny language model inventing a plausible-sounding name is the same phenomenon as a large one confidently stating a false fact.
Last stated 12 Feb 2026 · 8 months ago
Holds Andrej Karpathy