Something about design, especially high design now, feels utterly sexless: sanding away anything arousing or objectionable creates essentially nothing, which is the ultimate slop.

I think there's something about design, especially high design now, that feels utterly sexless. There's no desire. There's no lust. We've sanded away anything that could potentially be arousing, but also we've sanded away anything that feels, I guess, objectionable, but in doing so, we've created essentially nothing. And to me that is the ultimate slop.