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Everything filed under LLMs LLMs Everything filed under scaling laws scaling laws Everything filed under formal proof formal proof Same subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subjectSame subject Read this korrent: Large language models mimic what people say to do rather than work out what to do, which is why they are not about understanding the world. Large language models mimic what peoplesay to do rather than work out what to do,which is why they are not aboutunderstanding the world. Last stated 11 months ago 26 Sept 2025 RS Richard Sutton — holds since 2025-09-26 — tap for who they are Same subject: Process supervision by an LLM judge cannot be run for long, because a judge with billions of parameters is gameable and RL will find its cracks. — tap to centre the map on it Process supervision by an LLM judgecannot be run for long, because ajudge with billions of parameters isgameable and RL will find itscracks. Last stated 11 months ago 17 Oct 2025 AK Andrej Karpathy — holds since 2025-10-17 — tap for who they are Same subject: A verifiable task can be optimised by reinforcement learning until a neural network performs it extremely well. — tap to centre the map on it A verifiable task can be optimisedby reinforcement learning until aneural network performs it extremelywell. Last stated 10 months ago 17 Nov 2025 AK Andrej Karpathy — holds since 2025-11-17 — tap for who they are Same subject: Capability does not generalise for free: a model that will move mountains on an agentic task still tells the same bad joke it told five years ago. — tap to centre the map on it Capability does not generalise forfree: a model that will movemountains on an agentic task stilltells the same bad joke it told fiveyears ago. Last stated 6 months ago 20 Mar 2026 AK Andrej Karpathy — holds since 2026-03-20 — tap for who they are Same subject: Humans barely use reinforcement learning for intelligence — what RL they do use goes into motor tasks, not problem solving. — tap to centre the map on it Humans barely use reinforcementlearning for intelligence — what RLthey do use goes into motor tasks,not problem solving. Last stated 11 months ago 17 Oct 2025 AK Andrej Karpathy — holds since 2025-10-17 — tap for who they are Same subject: Humans keep their place in AI as judges rather than authors, because telling which of two answers is better is far easier than writing a good one. — tap to centre the map on it Humans keep their place in AI asjudges rather than authors, becausetelling which of two answers isbetter is far easier than writing agood one. Last stated 2 years ago 3 Feb 2025 NL Nathan Lambert — holds since 2025-02-03 — tap for who they are Same subject: Models look far better on evals than they are in the world because researchers, inadvertently, take inspiration from the evals when they build RL environments. — tap to centre the map on it Models look far better on evals thanthey are in the world becauseresearchers, inadvertently, takeinspiration from the evals when theybuild RL environments. Last stated 9 months ago 25 Nov 2025 IS Ilya Sutskever — holds since 2025-11-25 — tap for who they are Same subject: Models resemble each other because pre-training is the same everywhere; what differentiates labs now is RL and post-training. — tap to centre the map on it Models resemble each other becausepre-training is the same everywhere;what differentiates labs now is RLand post-training. Last stated 9 months ago 25 Nov 2025 IS Ilya Sutskever — holds since 2025-11-25 — tap for who they are Same subject: No person learns the way RL does: a human reviews which parts of an attempt were good instead of rewarding every step of a lucky one. — tap to centre the map on it No person learns the way RL does: ahuman reviews which parts of anattempt were good instead ofrewarding every step of a lucky one. Last stated 11 months ago 17 Oct 2025 AK Andrej Karpathy — holds since 2025-10-17 — tap for who they are Same subject: A language model is no substitute for a well-specified conventional algorithm, so it cannot simply be dropped into a complex problem and trusted. — tap to centre the map on it A language model is no substitutefor a well-specified conventionalalgorithm, so it cannot simply bedropped into a complex problem andtrusted. Last stated a year ago 7 Jun 2025 GM Gary Marcus — holds since 2025-06-07 — tap for who they are Same subject: A language model is not using language at all, because language requires an intention to communicate. — tap to centre the map on it A language model is not usinglanguage at all, because languagerequires an intention tocommunicate. Last stated 2 years ago 31 Aug 2024 TC Ted Chiang — holds since 2024-08-31 — tap for who they are Same subject: A language model's apparent mind is mostly our own bias: it predicts text, and leverages our evolved habit of attributing intentionality to anything that acts human. — tap to centre the map on it A language model's apparent mind ismostly our own bias: it predictstext, and leverages our evolvedhabit of attributing intentionalityto anything that acts human. Last stated 2 years ago 22 Apr 2024 SC Sean Carroll — holds since 2024-04-22 — tap for who they are Same subject: Large language models could still plateau, and that possibility should be held open even though no evidence of it has appeared. — tap to centre the map on it Large language models could stillplateau, and that possibility shouldbe held open even though no evidenceof it has appeared. Last stated 2 weeks ago 26 Aug 2026 DH David Heinemeier Hansson — holds since 2026-08-26 — tap for who they are Same subject: The LLM line of research will reach a capability plateau. — tap to centre the map on it The LLM line of research will reacha capability plateau. Last stated a month ago 7 Aug 2026 FC François Chollet — no longer holds since 2026-08-07 — tap for who they are GM Gary Marcus — holds since 2025-06-07 — tap for who they are Same subject: A benchmark result should be reported under a stated budget, or as a curve against test-time compute — never as a single number. — tap to centre the map on it A benchmark result should bereported under a stated budget, oras a curve against test-time compute— never as a single number. Last stated 2 months ago 26 Jun 2026 NB Noam Brown — holds since 2026-06-26 — tap for who they are Same subject: AI-written code makes formal proof necessary, because human review of all that generated code becomes the bottleneck. — tap to centre the map on it AI-written code makes formal proofnecessary, because human review ofall that generated code becomes thebottleneck. Last stated 5 months ago 22 Apr 2026 MK Martin Kleppmann — holds since 2026-04-22 — tap for who they are Same subject: Formal verification is about to become economical, because models are getting good enough at writing the proofs that humans no longer have to. — tap to centre the map on it Formal verification is about tobecome economical, because modelsare getting good enough at writingthe proofs that humans no longerhave to. Last stated 5 months ago 22 Apr 2026 MK Martin Kleppmann — holds since 2026-04-22 — tap for who they are Same subject: Formalising a proof in Lean currently takes about ten times the effort of writing it out: doable, but annoying. — tap to centre the map on it Formalising a proof in Leancurrently takes about ten times theeffort of writing it out: doable,but annoying. Last stated a year ago 14 Jun 2025 TT Terence Tao — holds since 2025-06-14 — tap for who they are
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At the centre Large language models mimic what people say to do rather than work out what to do, which is why they are not about understanding the world. Last stated 26 Sept 2025 · 11 months ago Holds Richard Sutton Read this korrent →