What Nick Cave thinks about LLMs

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Australian songwriter and writer, frontman of Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds. Since 2018 he has answered readers' questions in public at The Red Hand Files, where most of what he has said about how songs are made now lives.

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1. 10 Aug 2023

   Our readingMechanising the imagination commodifies the human spirit, because it makes a person's own part in making things look valueless.

   OpenAI

   Their wordsChatGPT is fast-tracking the commodification of the human spirit by mechanising the imagination. It renders our participation in the act of creation as valueless and unnecessary.

   ↗I work in the music industry and there is a lot of excitement around ChatGPT... what's wrong with making things faster and easier?theredhandfiles.com 1st of 2 in this piece

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3. 16 Jan 2023

   Our readingWhat a generative model makes is a replication of art rather than art, because it can only imitate or average the choices human makers have already made.

   OpenAI

   Their wordsWhat ChatGPT is, in this instance, is replication as travesty. ChatGPT may be able to write a speech or an essay or a sermon or an obituary but it cannot create a genuine song.

   ↗I asked Chat GPT to write a song in the style of Nick Cave and this is what it produced. What do you think?theredhandfiles.com 1st of 3 in this piece