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19 Oct 2021
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Émile P. Torres — holds since 2021-10-19 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Longtermism, which treats fulfilling humanity's long-term potential as the overriding moral priority, is a worldview worth defending. — tap to centre the map on it Longtermism, which treats fulfilling humanity's long-term potential as the overriding moral priority, is a worldview worth defending. Last stated 5 years ago
19 Oct 2021
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Émile P. Torres — no longer holds since 2021-10-19 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Longtermism is not the same thing as caring about the long-term future or about future generations; it goes far beyond that. — tap to centre the map on it Longtermism is not the same thing as caring about the long-term future or about future generations; it goes far beyond that. Last stated 5 years ago
19 Oct 2021
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Émile P. Torres — holds since 2021-10-19 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Whether anyone can actually do anything about how good the future is, rather than whether it matters, is the strongest objection to prioritising it. — tap to centre the map on it Whether anyone can actually do anything about how good the future is, rather than whether it matters, is the strongest objection to prioritising it. Last stated a year ago
3 Aug 2025
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William MacAskill — holds since 2025-08-03 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Working on how good the long-run future is does not require accepting consequentialism or believing that you should always maximise the good. — tap to centre the map on it Working on how good the long-run future is does not require accepting consequentialism or believing that you should always maximise the good. Last stated a year ago
3 Aug 2025
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William MacAskill — holds since 2025-08-03 — tap for who they are
Same subject: The commitments of longtermism are themselves a major reason humanity faces so many risks to its survival in the first place. — tap to centre the map on it The commitments of longtermism are themselves a major reason humanity faces so many risks to its survival in the first place. Last stated 5 years ago
19 Oct 2021
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Émile P. Torres — holds since 2021-10-19 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Making humanity's long-term potential the overriding priority licenses imposing real costs on people who are alive today. — tap to centre the map on it Making humanity's long-term potential the overriding priority licenses imposing real costs on people who are alive today. Last stated 3 years ago
21 Dec 2023
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Matt Johnson — holds since 2023-12-21 — tap for who they are
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Émile P. Torres — holds since 2021-10-19 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Thinking, judgement and knowledge are worth pursuing for the joy in them, not in order to defend human uniqueness. — tap to centre the map on it Thinking, judgement and knowledge are worth pursuing for the joy in them, not in order to defend human uniqueness. Last stated 5 months ago
2 Jun 2026
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L. M. Sacasas — holds since 2026-06-02 — tap for who they are
Same subject: There is an unsatiating reason to want wealth that has nothing to do with greed: a classical utilitarian wants resources in order to create new happy beings. — tap to centre the map on it There is an unsatiating reason to want wealth that has nothing to do with greed: a classical utilitarian wants resources in order to create new happy beings. Last stated 5 months ago
4 Jun 2026
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Phil Trammell — holds since 2026-06-04 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A company that uses an algorithm to nudge customers into behavior that isn't good for them is doing something bad. — tap to centre the map on it A company that uses an algorithm to nudge customers into behavior that isn't good for them is doing something bad. Last stated a year ago
7 Oct 2025
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Mr. Money Mustache — holds since 2025-10-07 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A control evaluation that reports under one per cent risk should be read as several per cent, because the evaluation can itself fail. — tap to centre the map on it A control evaluation that reports under one per cent risk should be read as several per cent, because the evaluation can itself fail. Last stated 2 years ago
7 May 2024
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Buck Shlegeris — holds since 2024-05-07 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A feedback loop that reinforces a behavior pulls it toward whatever improves the loop's own score. — tap to centre the map on it A feedback loop that reinforces a behavior pulls it toward whatever improves the loop's own score. Last stated 2 months ago
26 Aug 2026
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Henrik Karlsson — holds since 2026-08-26 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A machine doing your work better than you is no reason to stop doing it, because the point of the work was never that only you could do it. — tap to centre the map on it A machine doing your work better than you is no reason to stop doing it, because the point of the work was never that only you could do it. Last stated 5 months ago
2 Jun 2026
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L. M. Sacasas — holds since 2026-06-02 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A skill being automated is not a reason to stop learning it: practising what machines already do is often the stepping stone to what only people can do. — tap to centre the map on it A skill being automated is not a reason to stop learning it: practising what machines already do is often the stepping stone to what only people can do. Last stated 11 months ago
18 Nov 2025
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Scott H. Young — holds since 2025-11-18 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A well-written email does not need an AI summary, and an executive who delegates his reading to one has stopped doing the job. — tap to centre the map on it A well-written email does not need an AI summary, and an executive who delegates his reading to one has stopped doing the job. Last stated a year ago
21 May 2025
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Ed Zitron — holds since 2025-05-21 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A country outside the AI supply chain should just buy the index — which works only in the world where AI ends up commoditised rather than concentrated. — tap to centre the map on it A country outside the AI supply chain should just buy the index — which works only in the world where AI ends up commoditised rather than concentrated. Last stated 5 months ago
4 Jun 2026
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Alex Imas — holds since 2026-06-04 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A human being is not an AGI: we lack a huge amount of knowledge and rely on continual learning instead, so continual learning is what superintelligence should mean. — tap to centre the map on it A human being is not an AGI: we lack a huge amount of knowledge and rely on continual learning instead, so continual learning is what superintelligence should mean. Last stated 11 months ago
25 Nov 2025
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Ilya Sutskever — holds since 2025-11-25 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A language model is no substitute for a well-specified conventional algorithm, so it cannot simply be dropped into a complex problem and trusted. — tap to centre the map on it A language model is no substitute for a well-specified conventional algorithm, so it cannot simply be dropped into a complex problem and trusted. Last stated a year ago
7 Jun 2025
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Gary Marcus — holds since 2025-06-07 — tap for who they are
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The moral theory underneath longtermism treats people as containers of value rather than as the point of it, which is why creating more of them counts as making the universe better.
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Longtermism, which treats fulfilling humanity's long-term potential as the overriding moral priority, is a worldview worth defending.
No longer holds
Longtermism is not the same thing as caring about the long-term future or about future generations; it goes far beyond that.
Holds
Whether anyone can actually do anything about how good the future is, rather than whether it matters, is the strongest objection to prioritising it.
Holds
Working on how good the long-run future is does not require accepting consequentialism or believing that you should always maximise the good.
Holds
The commitments of longtermism are themselves a major reason humanity faces so many risks to its survival in the first place.
Holds
Making humanity's long-term potential the overriding priority licenses imposing real costs on people who are alive today.
Holds
Thinking, judgement and knowledge are worth pursuing for the joy in them, not in order to defend human uniqueness.
Holds
There is an unsatiating reason to want wealth that has nothing to do with greed: a classical utilitarian wants resources in order to create new happy beings.
Holds
A company that uses an algorithm to nudge customers into behavior that isn't good for them is doing something bad.
Holds
A control evaluation that reports under one per cent risk should be read as several per cent, because the evaluation can itself fail.
Holds
A feedback loop that reinforces a behavior pulls it toward whatever improves the loop's own score.
Holds
A machine doing your work better than you is no reason to stop doing it, because the point of the work was never that only you could do it.
Holds
A skill being automated is not a reason to stop learning it: practising what machines already do is often the stepping stone to what only people can do.
Holds
A well-written email does not need an AI summary, and an executive who delegates his reading to one has stopped doing the job.
Holds
A country outside the AI supply chain should just buy the index — which works only in the world where AI ends up commoditised rather than concentrated.
Holds
A human being is not an AGI: we lack a huge amount of knowledge and rely on continual learning instead, so continual learning is what superintelligence should mean.
Holds
A language model is no substitute for a well-specified conventional algorithm, so it cannot simply be dropped into a complex problem and trusted.
Holds