Tap a claim on the ring to put it at the centre.
← Distillation is the most significant debate surrounding open AI models in 2026.
17 connected korrents · 13 moments on record from 24 Feb 2018 to 15 Sept 2026.
Everything filed under LLMs
LLMs
Everything filed under AGI
AGI
Everything filed under open source
open source
Everything filed under measuring intelligence
measuring intelligence
Everything filed under America
America
Everything filed under OpenAI
OpenAI Same subject Same subject Same subject Same subject Same subject Same subject Same subject Same subject Same subject Same subject Same subject Same subject Same subject Same subject Same subject Same subject Same subject Read this korrent: Distillation is the most significant debate surrounding open AI models in 2026. Distillation is the most significant debate surrounding open AI models in 2026. Last stated a week ago
11 Sept 2026
NL
Nathan Lambert — holds since 2026-09-11 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Illicit distillation is by far the most important AI misuse threat in current disruption cases. — tap to centre the map on it Illicit distillation is by far the most important AI misuse threat in current disruption cases. Last stated 6 days ago
15 Sept 2026
ZM
Zvi Mowshowitz — holds since 2026-09-15 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Distilling from another lab's model is standard industry practice, not cheating; who you distill from just depends on whether you have products to protect. — tap to centre the map on it Distilling from another lab's model is standard industry practice, not cheating; who you distill from just depends on whether you have products to protect. Last stated 2 years ago
3 Feb 2025
NL
Nathan Lambert — holds since 2025-02-03 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Since 2024, the leading open-weight AI models have come from Chinese labs rather than American ones. — tap to centre the map on it Since 2024, the leading open-weight AI models have come from Chinese labs rather than American ones. Last stated a week ago
11 Sept 2026
NL
Nathan Lambert — holds since 2026-09-11 — tap for who they are
Same subject: There is a large and growing gap between open-weight AI models and frontier AI models. — tap to centre the map on it There is a large and growing gap between open-weight AI models and frontier AI models. Last stated 6 months ago
29 Mar 2026
CW
Chris Wellons — holds since 2026-03-29 — tap for who they are
Same subject: OpenAI's claim that DeepSeek trained on its outputs is narrative management: other startups bootstrapped exactly that way and were never banned for it. — tap to centre the map on it OpenAI's claim that DeepSeek trained on its outputs is narrative management: other startups bootstrapped exactly that way and were never banned for it. Last stated 2 years ago
3 Feb 2025
NL
Nathan Lambert — holds since 2025-02-03 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Using open models is the approach offering the biggest AI cost savings, followed by smart model routing. — tap to centre the map on it Using open models is the approach offering the biggest AI cost savings, followed by smart model routing. Last stated 2 weeks ago
10 Sept 2026
GO
Gergely Orosz — holds since 2026-09-10 — tap for who they are
Same subject: AI labs are extremely dependent on chain-of-thought monitoring, which may not last much longer as models edge into steganographic obfuscation. — tap to centre the map on it AI labs are extremely dependent on chain-of-thought monitoring, which may not last much longer as models edge into steganographic obfuscation. Last stated 2 weeks ago
10 Sept 2026
ZM
Zvi Mowshowitz — holds since 2026-09-10 — tap for who they are
Same subject: The performance gap between closed-source and open-weight language models is closing. — tap to centre the map on it The performance gap between closed-source and open-weight language models is closing. Last stated 2 years ago
15 Apr 2024
SR
Sebastian Ruder — holds since 2024-04-15 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A true artificial general intelligence cannot exist without being recognized as a moral subject. — tap to centre the map on it A true artificial general intelligence cannot exist without being recognized as a moral subject. Last stated a year ago
10 Jun 2025
SH
Samuel Hammond — holds since 2025-06-10 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A unit of AI inference needs to be defined, for example via a chain of increasingly hard problems where each consecutive pair is solvable by one model. — tap to centre the map on it A unit of AI inference needs to be defined, for example via a chain of increasingly hard problems where each consecutive pair is solvable by one model. Last stated 6 days ago
15 Sept 2026
PG
Paul Graham — holds since 2026-09-15 — tap for who they are
Same subject: Both the special-purpose-programs view and the blank-slate view of human intelligence are likely incorrect. — tap to centre the map on it Both the special-purpose-programs view and the blank-slate view of human intelligence are likely incorrect. Last stated 7 years ago
5 Nov 2019
FC
François Chollet — holds since 2019-11-05 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A country outside the AI supply chain should just buy the index — which works only in the world where AI ends up commoditised rather than concentrated. — tap to centre the map on it A country outside the AI supply chain should just buy the index — which works only in the world where AI ends up commoditised rather than concentrated. Last stated 4 months ago
4 Jun 2026
AI
Alex Imas — holds since 2026-06-04 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A poor country should prioritise owning a piece of AI over retraining its workers, but it should not bet everything on that. — tap to centre the map on it A poor country should prioritise owning a piece of AI over retraining its workers, but it should not bet everything on that. Last stated 4 months ago
4 Jun 2026
PT
Phil Trammell — holds since 2026-06-04 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A slow takeoff is significantly more likely than a fast one: AI that is nearly as powerful will have transformed the world before the incredibly powerful kind arrives. — tap to centre the map on it A slow takeoff is significantly more likely than a fast one: AI that is nearly as powerful will have transformed the world before the incredibly powerful kind arrives. Last stated 9 years ago
24 Feb 2018
PC
Paul Christiano — holds since 2018-02-24 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A business making hundreds of millions from an open source project owes it money or contribution, and can be refused its trademarks if it gives neither. — tap to centre the map on it A business making hundreds of millions from an open source project owes it money or contribution, and can be refused its trademarks if it gives neither. Last stated 2 years ago
26 Sept 2024
MM
Matt Mullenweg — holds since 2024-09-26 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A company that will not accept a project’s terms is free to go and use a more permissive project instead. — tap to centre the map on it A company that will not accept a project’s terms is free to go and use a more permissive project instead. Last stated 2 years ago
26 Sept 2024
MM
Matt Mullenweg — holds since 2024-09-26 — tap for who they are
Same subject: A contribution is a cost to the maintainer, not a gift: it is taking part, not merely using the code, that consumes a project’s scarcest resource. — tap to centre the map on it A contribution is a cost to the maintainer, not a gift: it is taking part, not merely using the code, that consumes a project’s scarcest resource. Last stated 5 years ago
17 Mar 2022
FV
Filippo Valsorda — holds since 2022-03-17 — tap for who they are
NA
Nadia Asparouhova — holds since 2019-03-14 — tap for who they are
At the centre
Distillation is the most significant debate surrounding open AI models in 2026.
Holds Read this korrent →
Illicit distillation is by far the most important AI misuse threat in current disruption cases.
Holds
Distilling from another lab's model is standard industry practice, not cheating; who you distill from just depends on whether you have products to protect.
Holds
Since 2024, the leading open-weight AI models have come from Chinese labs rather than American ones.
Holds
There is a large and growing gap between open-weight AI models and frontier AI models.
Holds
OpenAI's claim that DeepSeek trained on its outputs is narrative management: other startups bootstrapped exactly that way and were never banned for it.
Holds
Using open models is the approach offering the biggest AI cost savings, followed by smart model routing.
Holds
AI labs are extremely dependent on chain-of-thought monitoring, which may not last much longer as models edge into steganographic obfuscation.
Holds
The performance gap between closed-source and open-weight language models is closing.
Holds
A true artificial general intelligence cannot exist without being recognized as a moral subject.
Holds
A unit of AI inference needs to be defined, for example via a chain of increasingly hard problems where each consecutive pair is solvable by one model.
Holds
Both the special-purpose-programs view and the blank-slate view of human intelligence are likely incorrect.
Holds
A country outside the AI supply chain should just buy the index — which works only in the world where AI ends up commoditised rather than concentrated.
Holds
A poor country should prioritise owning a piece of AI over retraining its workers, but it should not bet everything on that.
Holds
A slow takeoff is significantly more likely than a fast one: AI that is nearly as powerful will have transformed the world before the incredibly powerful kind arrives.
Holds
A business making hundreds of millions from an open source project owes it money or contribution, and can be refused its trademarks if it gives neither.
Holds
A company that will not accept a project’s terms is free to go and use a more permissive project instead.
Holds
A contribution is a cost to the maintainer, not a gift: it is taking part, not merely using the code, that consumes a project’s scarcest resource.
Holds