What Armin Ronacher thinks about China

@armin-ronacher · 30 positions · 1 change of mind · On ppll ↗

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1 dated position, 2026, in their own words. Our reading of what Armin Ronacher has said — not written or endorsed by them.

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1. 7 Sept 2026

   Our readingAll of AI engineering increasingly seems to be involution (Neijuan): a system demanding ever more effort and competition without improving output.

   Their wordsI’m more and more convinced that all of AI engineering is Neijuan (内卷, meaning curl inwards). In China it describes a system that demands ever more effort and competition without improving output.

   ↗Astra for Coding: Why Are We Doing This Again?lucumr.pocoo.org