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Their wordsNone of the people arguing for or against software engineering as engineering have worked as engineers.
Their wordsJust because we use a different branch of math doesn't mean we're not doing engineering.
Their wordsMuch of the engineering there is low-stakes, low-consequence, just like much software is.
Their wordslicenses exist because we are part of society and have legal requirements, not because they are essential to what it means to do engineering
Their wordsOf the 17 crossovers I talked to, 15 said yes.
Their wordsWe are separated from engineering by circumstance, not by essence, and we can choose to bridge that gap at will.