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The Tim Ferriss Show #412: Josh Waitzkin on Beginner’s Mind, Self-Actualization, and Advice from Your Future Self (transcript)

Josh Waitzkin · 27 Feb 2020

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  1. I think of learning as unobstructed self-expression. So friction is a form of obstruction.
  2. I mean, embracing looking absurd in certain moments is a very interesting hack to what others might not be taking advantage of in the learning process.
  3. So I think to answer your question, conceptual learning has been—when you learn a technique, you’re learning one thing, when you’re learning a principle that embodies a technique, you might be learning a thousand things.
  4. And you’re right, I think it’s a disadvantage in a lot of ways that we’re coming in it so late. But it’s also a wonderful advantage because we’re not socialized by any of the assumptions that a lifetime surfer would make.
  5. It’s very interesting to take our assumptions and examine them, flip them upside down, rip them apart.
  6. If my goal is unobstructed self-expression or self-actualization within an art, then the person who’s teaching me should be the person who knows me most deeply. And that’s my person 20 years from now.
  7. We can also cultivate the ability to look through the frame but also see the frame.
  8. I would argue that a lot of what defines the learning curve of someone in a field like investing where accurate feedback loops are few and far between, it’s how creative you are in manifesting them.

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