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Jensen Huang – Will Nvidia’s moat persist?

Jensen Huang · 1h 43m · youtube.com

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  1. 0:01:47 · watch on youtube.com

    my mental model of our company the input is electron the output is tokens that is in the middle Nvidia and our job is to to do as much as necessary as little as possible to enable that transformation to be done at incredible capabilities
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  3. 0:03:18 · watch on youtube.com

    I actually see the opposite of what people see I think the number of agents are going to grow exponentially. The number of tool users are going to grow exponentially and it's very likely that the number of instances of all these tools are going to skyrocket.
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  5. 0:05:47 · watch on youtube.com

    Now why are they willing to make the investments for me and not someone else and the reason for that is because they know that I have the capacity to buy it buy their supply and sell it through my downstream.
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    You know, radiology is is going to be the first career to go. Nobody's the world's not going to need any more radiologists. Guess what? But we're short of radiologists.
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    And so none of that my point is that none of the bottlenecks last longer than a couple 2 three years. None of them.
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    Our market reach is far greater than any any TPU can any ASA can possibly have. And so if you look at our position, uh we're the only company that that accelerates applications of all kinds.
  12. 0:17:59 · watch on youtube.com

    because our computers are designed to be operated by other people, anyone who's an operator could buy our systems. Most of these homebuilt systems you have to be your own operator because it was never designed to be flexible enough for other people to operate.
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    TPUs like anything else is impacted by Moore's law. And we know that Moore's law is increasing about 25% per year. And so the only way to really get 10x leaps, 100x leaps, is to fundamentally change the algorithm and how it's computed every single year.
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    And so our expertise um helps our our our um uh our AI labs partners get another 2x out of their stack easily. Often times it's not unusual that we you know by the time that we're done optimizing their stack or optimizing a particular kernel their model sped up by 3x 2x 50%.
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    Nvidia's computing stack is the best performance per TCO in the world, bar none. Nobody can demonstrate to me that any single platform in the world today has better performance TCO ratio. Not one company.
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    anthropic is is an is a unique instance um and not a trend. Uh without an anthropic, why would there be any TPU growth at all? It's 100% anthropic. Without anthropic, why would there be any tranium growth at all? It's 100% anthropic.
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  22. 0:38:07 · watch on youtube.com

    Just because you're going to build an ASIC, you still have to build something better. than Nvidia. And it's not that easy building something better than Nvidia.
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    And so so I think the the ASIC margins are are incredibly good from what I can tell and and they believe it. They believe it so too. And so they're they're quite proud of their their incredible ASIC margins.
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    Nor nor did I I would say my mistake is I didn't deeply internalize that they they really had no other options that that that a VC would never put in 510 billion of investment into an AI lab with the with the hopes of it turning out to be anthropic. And so that was my miss.
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    the work that we do with building our our computing platform. If we don't if we don't do it, I genuinely believe it doesn't get done. If we didn't take the risk that we take, if we didn't build MVLink the way we built, if we didn't build the whole stack, if we didn't create the ecosystem the way we did it, if we didn't dedicate ourselves to 20 years of CUDA while losing money most of that time, if we didn't do it, nobody else would have done it.
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  30. 0:47:48 · watch on youtube.com

    Nvidia would be the top of that list not to make it. You know, this is long before you, but Nvidia's graphics architecture was precisely wrong. It's not a little bit wrong. We created an architecture that was precisely wrong.
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    Because it's it's a bad business practice. You you set your price. You set your price and then and then people decide to buy it or not. And and um uh there there I I understand that that others in the chip industry um uh change their prices when demand is higher. Uh but we just don't we just don't that's just never been a practice of ours.
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  34. 0:55:58 · watch on youtube.com

    Pick your ASIC team where you can say I can bet the farm of I can bet my entire business that you will be here for me every single year. Your cost, your token cost will decrease by an order of magnitude every single year. I can count on it like I can count on the clock.
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    And so you just have to first realize that chips exist in China. They manufacture 60% of the world's mainstream chips, maybe more. It's a very large industry for them. They have some of the world's greatest computer scientists.
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    We have got to acknowledge that most of the advanc advances in AI came out of algorithm advances not just the raw hardware. Now if most advances came from algorithms and computer science and programming tell me that their army of AI researchers is not their fundamental advantage.
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    Computing is not like that. There's a reason why the x86 still exists. There's a reason why ARM is so sticky. These ecosystems, these ecosystems are hard to replace. It costs an enormous amount of time and energy and most people don't want to do it.
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    Between Hopper and Blackwell from the transistors themselves, call it 75%. It was 3 years apart. 75%. Blackwell is 50 times hopper. My point is architecture matters.
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    Yeah, we we could do all of those things. Um it's just not better. And we simulate it all. they're in our simulator provably worse and so we wouldn't do it.
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  46. 1:40:45 · watch on youtube.com

    the ability for general purpose computing to continue to scale has largely run its course and the only the the not the only way but the the way to do that is through domain specific acceleration