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The moral Machiavelli draws from the Borgias is that we should imitate them: they fell to fortune, not to their choices.
Drawn from what Ada Palmer said
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What Ada Palmer actually said
Word for word, with the source under each one. They did not write this page.
Historian of the Renaissance and of the history of ideas
They fell because half of what happens in the world is never in our control. And you can do everything right and it's out of your control, but we have to evaluate what would have happened and therefore we should imitate them, because everything they did was right.
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