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Sundar Pichai: CEO of Google and Alphabet | Lex Fridman Podcast #471

Sundar Pichai · 2h 12m · youtube.com

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  1. 0:15:08 · watch on youtube.com

    AI is the most profound technology humanity will ever work on, more profound than fire or electricity, and he still stands by having said so in 2017.

    Many years ago, I think it might've been 2017 or 2018, I said at the time, AI is the most profound technology humanity will ever work on. It'll be more profound than fire or electricity. So, I have to back myself. I still think that's the case.
  2. 7 min later
  3. 0:21:41 · watch on youtube.com

    AI will let tens of millions, maybe a billion people put things into the world, the way blogs and YouTube did for hundreds of thousands.

    When the internet created blogs, you heard from so many more people. But with AI, I think that number won't be in the few hundreds of thousands. It'll be tens of millions of people, maybe even a billion people putting out things into the world in a deeper way.
  4. 3 min later
  5. 0:25:04 · watch on youtube.com

    AI video will enable more filmmakers than have ever existed; the expansionary side of it is underestimated.

    There is no doubt in me that we will enable more filmmakers than have ever been. You're going to empower a lot more people. So I think there is an expansionary aspect of this, which is underestimated, I think.
  6. 4 min later
  7. 0:29:20 · watch on youtube.com

    Artistic free expression is one of the values a society should work hard to defend, including in what AI is allowed to make.

    But I do think when it comes to artistic free expression, I think that's one of those values we should work hard to defend.
  8. 7 min later
  9. 0:36:24 · watch on youtube.com

    Scaling laws are still working, but the models people actually use run a few months behind the maximum capability Google can deliver, because the biggest model is too slow and expensive to serve.

    So I do think scaling laws are working, but it's tough to get, at any given time, the models we all use the most, this maybe a few months behind the maximum capability we can deliver because that won't be the fastest, easiest to use, et cetera.
  10. 2 min later
  11. 0:38:41 · watch on youtube.com

    We are in the phase of artificial jagged intelligence: dramatic progress alongside models that still trip on counting letters.

    I feel like we are in the AJI phase where dramatic progress, some things don't work well, but overall you're seeing lots of progress.
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  13. 0:39:54 · watch on youtube.com

    Whatever the term, by 2030 AI progress will be so dramatic that the world will be dealing with its consequences, good and bad, in a big way.

    I almost feel the term doesn't matter, what I know is by 2030 there'll be such dramatic progress. We'll be dealing with the consequences of that progress, both the positive externalities and the negative externalities that come with it in a big way by 2030. So that I strongly feel.
  14. 3 min later
  15. 0:43:02 · watch on youtube.com

    Models that can code should be allowed to write their own interfaces, instead of being boxed into the UI humans give them.

    Today, we are constraining the models, the models can't quite express themselves in terms of the UI to people. But if you think about it, we've kind of boxed them in that way, but given these models can code, they should be able to write the best interfaces to express their ideas over time.
  16. 20 min later
  17. 1:03:02 · watch on youtube.com

    Google Search will keep sending people out to the web even as it answers with more context; that is a design goal, not a side effect.

    You can have AI give a lot of context, but one of our important design goals though, is when you come to Google Search, you are going to get a lot of context, but you're going to go and find a lot of things out on the web. So that will be true in AI mode, in AI overviews, and so on.
  18. 9 min later
  19. 1:11:37 · watch on youtube.com

    News and journalism will matter in the future, and Google's commitment to that ecosystem will become a way it differentiates itself.

    Look, I think news and journalism will play an important role in the future. We are pretty committed to it, right? So I think making sure that ecosystem, in fact, I think we'll be able to differentiate ourselves as a company over time because of our commitment there.
  20. 8 min later
  21. 1:20:00 · watch on youtube.com

    Aim for moonshots: they attract the best people, leave you the path to yourself, and even sixty to eighty percent of one is a terrific success.

    Number three, even if you end up quite not accomplishing what you set out to do and you end up doing 60, 80% of it, it'll end up being a terrific success. So that's the advice I would give people, right? I think it's just aiming for big ideas, has all these advantages
  22. 11 min later
  23. 1:31:16 · watch on youtube.com

    The metric that matters is engineering velocity, not the share of code AI writes, and at Google AI has raised it by about ten percent.

    But the most important metric, and we carefully measure it is, like, how much has our engineering velocity increased as a company due to AI, right? It's tough measure, and we rigorously try to measure it, and our estimates are that number is now at 10%, right?
  24. 3 min later
  25. 1:34:08 · watch on youtube.com

    The next big wave of AI-assisted engineering unlocks when agentic capabilities become robust.

    The big unlock will be as we make the agentic capabilities much more robust, right? I think that's what unlocks that next big wave.
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  27. 1:37:06 · watch on youtube.com

    He would still tell a young person with a passion for it to study computer science, because AI will reach every field and first-principles thinking is what transfers.

    I do. If you have a passion for computer science, I would. Computer science is obviously a lot more than programming alone, so I would. I still don't think I would change what you pursue. I think AI will horizontally allow impact every field.
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  29. 1:38:09 · watch on youtube.com

    AR is the next paradigm shift in computing, the way the GUI, multi-touch and voice were.

    The best innovations in computing have come through a paradigm IO change, right? When with GUI, and then with a graphical user interface, and then with multi-touch in the context of mobile voice later on. Similarly, I feel like AR is that next paradigm.
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  31. 1:50:04 · watch on youtube.com

    He is an optimist about humanity's future because he would almost always rather have been born now than at any earlier time.

    I always ask myself the question, would you have been born now or any other time in the past? I most often, not most often, almost always would rather be born now.