Jeff Bezos: Amazon and Blue Origin | Lex Fridman Podcast #405

Jeff Bezos · 2h 11m · youtube.com ↗

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A solar system holding a trillion humans is the right thing to aim at, because a population that size would have a thousand Mozarts and a thousand Einsteins alive at once.

Their wordsI would love to see a trillion humans living in the solar system. If we had a trillion humans, we would have, at any given time, 1,000 Mozarts and 1,000 Einsteins. That our solar system would be full of life and intelligence and energy.

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Humanity's future off Earth is giant orbital stations rather than settled planets, because planetary surfaces are simply far too small.

Their wordsYeah, the only way to get to that vision is with giant space stations. The planetary surfaces are just way too small.

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The good old days are mostly an illusion: by almost every measure that can be counted, life today is better for almost everyone than it was fifty or a hundred years ago.

Their wordsIf you think about the good old days, they're mostly an illusion. In almost every way, life is better for almost everyone today than it was say 50 years ago or 100 years ago. We live better lives by and large than our grandparents did, and their grandparents did, and so on. And you can see that in global illiteracy rates, global poverty rates, global infant mortality rates. Almost any metric you choose, we're better off than we used to be.

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Efficiency and real invention are at odds, because genuine invention requires wandering and you have to give yourself permission to do it.

Their wordsEfficiency and invention are sort of at odds, because real invention, Not incremental improvement... Incremental improvement is so important in every endeavor, in everything you do, you have to work hard on also just making things a little bit better. But I'm talking about real invention, real lateral thinking that requires wandering, and you have to give yourself permission to wander.

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Getting to orbit was solved in the 1950s and 60s, and the only interesting problem left in spaceflight is making access to orbit dramatically cheaper.

Their wordsThe only interesting problem is dramatically reducing the cost of access to orbit, which is, if you can do that, you open up a bunch of new endeavors that lots of start-up companies everybody else can do. One of our missions is to be part of this industry and lower the cost to orbit, so that there can be a renaissance, a golden age of people doing all kinds of interesting things in space.

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Cutting the cost of something is not a lesser achievement than inventing it, because inventing a cheaper way is precisely how the whole world gets richer.

Their wordsAnd when you invent a better way, you make the whole world richer. So whatever it was, I don't know how many thousands of years ago, somebody invented the plow. And when they invented the plow, they made the whole world richer because they made farming less expensive. And so it is a big deal to invent better ways. That's how the world gets richer.

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Building a factory that turns out rockets at rate is at least as hard as designing the rocket in the first place.

Their wordsSo you need to have all of your manufacturing facilities and processes and inspection techniques and acceptance tests and everything operating at rate. And rate manufacturing is at least as difficult as designing the vehicle in the first place

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Space will only be unlocked when a valuable space company can be started in a dorm room, and that is the test of whether enough heavy infrastructure exists.

Their wordsThat will be a marker of success when you can have a really valuable space company started in a dorm room, then we know that we've built enough infrastructure so that ingenuity and imagination can really be unleashed.

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An inventor's highest ambition should be that the invention is eventually taken for granted and stops being seen as an invention at all.

Their wordsThat's an inventor's greatest dream, is that their inventions are so successful that they are one day taken for granted. Nobody thinks of Amazon as an invention anymore. Nobody thinks of customer reviews as an invention.

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A crewed rocket cannot be made safe by making the booster reliable, so the only real way to improve safety is to carry an escape system.

Their wordsAnd so the only way to improve safety is to have an escape system. And historically, human-rated rockets have had escape systems. Only the space shuttle did not, but Apollo had one. All of the previous Gemini, etcetera, they all had escape systems.

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Decisions split into reversible two-way doors and irreversible one-way doors, and only the one-way doors deserve slow, deliberate scrutiny.

Their wordsIf you make the wrong decision, if it's a two-way door decision, you pick a door, you walk out and you spend a little time there. It turns out to be the wrong decision, you can come back in and pick another door. Some decisions are so consequential and so important and so hard to reverse that they really are one-way door decisions. You go in that door, you're not coming back. And those decisions have to be made very deliberately, very carefully.

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Compromise is a bad way to settle a disagreement, because its only advantage is that it takes less energy than finding out who is right.

Their wordsCompromise, the advantage of compromise as a resolution mechanism is that it's low energy, but it doesn't lead to truth. And so in things like the height of the ceiling where truth is a noble thing, you shouldn't allow compromise to be used when you can know the truth.

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Humans are social animals rather than truth-seeking ones, so telling the truth is not what we are built for and always costs energy.

Their wordsSo if I generalize what you're asking, you are talking in general about truth-telling and we humans are not really truth-seeking animals. We are social animals.

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A company's culture should let the most junior person overrule the most senior one with data, which is why the senior person should always speak last.

Their wordsYes, and that's true inside companies too. And so you want to set up your culture so that the most junior person can overrule the most senior person if they have data. And that really is about trying to... There are little things you can do. So for example, in every meeting that I attend, I always speak last.

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When the data and the anecdotes disagree, the anecdotes are usually right and the metric is usually measuring the wrong thing.

Their wordsI have a saying, which is when the data and the anecdotes disagree, the anecdotes are usually right. And it doesn't mean you just slavishly go follow the anecdotes then. It means you go examine the data because it's usually not that the data is being miscollected, it's usually that you're not measuring the right thing.

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The things worth building a business around are the ones that will not have changed in ten years, and those are identifiable in advance.

Their wordsAnd I would encourage anybody, if anybody listening to this is an entrepreneur, has a small business, whatever, think about the things that are not going to change over 10 years. And those are probably the big things.

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Large language models are discoveries rather than inventions, closer to looking through a telescope than to engineering an aircraft.

Their wordsIt's interesting to me that large language models in their current form are not inventions, they're discoveries. The telescope was an invention, but looking through it at Jupiter, knowing that it had moons, was a discovery.

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Human brains are doing something fundamentally different from today's AI, and the evidence is that they run on roughly twenty watts.

Their wordsWe do know that humans are doing something different from these models, in part because we're so power efficient. The human brain does remarkable things and it does it on about 20 watts of power. And the AI techniques we use today use many kilowatts of power to do equivalent tasks.

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PowerPoint is a sales tool and therefore the wrong instrument inside a company, because internally you are trying to find the truth rather than persuade anyone.

Their wordsBut one of the problems is PowerPoint is really designed to persuade. It's kind of a sales tool. And internally, the last thing you want to do is sell. Again, you're truth seeking. You're trying to find truth. And the other problem with PowerPoint is it's easy for the author and hard for the audience.

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Long-term thinking is a lever that makes problems solvable which are impossible on a short horizon, and five years is already past most institutions' limit.

Their wordsLong-term thinking is a giant lever. You can literally solve problems if you think long-term, that are impossible to solve if you think short-term. And we aren't really good at thinking long-term. Five years is a tough timeframe for most institutions to think past.

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