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Dwarkesh Patel · 19 Jun 2026

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  1. I think the reason it is relatively easy for open source and previous laggards to catch up to within months of the frontier is that data is the real driver of progress.
  2. Humans are somewhere between thousands to millions of times more sample efficient than these models. Scaling of current models simply can't make up for that discrepancy.
  3. I would be willing to bet that there's overall more demand for human software engineers in 2028 than there is now, largely due to the complementary input of AI.

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