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Do tariffs do what they are imposed to do?

A tariff is imposed to close a trade gap, bring factories home and raise money. The people on record here have counted all three and disagree about what the counting shows -- and, more interestingly, about what a trade deficit even is. One side reads it as money being given away; the other as foreigners buying American assets, in which case the thing to fix is the budget rather than the border. Underneath both sits a quieter argument about why the price of a tariffed good takes a year to reach a shelf.

16 dated claims from 5 people · 4 views · most recent 24 Feb 2026. Every line below links to the person’s own words.

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  1. The counts came in and the tariffs did not do the things they were imposed to do

    Paul Krugman

  2. A trade deficit is a capital surplus, so the deficit to fix is the budget's

    John H. Cochrane

  3. Prices move through a supply chain slowly, which is why nobody has felt it yet

    John H. CochraneOlivier Blanchard

  4. Protection costs something, and it is counted in the wrong column

    John H. CochraneHannah RitchieEmmanuel Macron

A viewour reading

The counts came in and the tariffs did not do the things they were imposed to do

4 claims filed here, newest first — each in the words of whoever said it.

The tariffs did not revive American manufacturing; employment in it fell after they were imposed.

  1. Paul Krugman Trump also claimed that his tariffs would revive American manufacturing. In fact, manufacturing employment has declined since Liberation Day. paulkrugman.substack.com

    Trade economist, Nobel laureate in 2008 for his work on…

    Trump also claimed that his tariffs would revive American manufacturing. In fact, manufacturing employment has declined since Liberation Day.

The tariffs survived the case for them because their real purpose was the personal power they conferred.

  1. Paul Krugman It has been clear from the beginning that a primary motivation for tariffs was that they empowered Trump personally. paulkrugman.substack.com

    Trade economist, Nobel laureate in 2008 for his work on…

    It has been clear from the beginning that a primary motivation for tariffs was that they empowered Trump personally.

A viewour reading

A trade deficit is a capital surplus, so the deficit to fix is the budget's

5 claims filed here, newest first — each in the words of whoever said it.

The American trade deficit is foreigners choosing to invest in America, not America being cheated.

  1. John H. Cochrane this story tells us how an increase in foreign demand to save in the US rather than at home will push up the dollar, and cause the trade deficit, which is in effect how foreigners send us factories which they would rather build here than in their own countries. grumpy-economist.com

    Economist at the Hoover Institution

    this story tells us how an increase in foreign demand to save in the US rather than at home will push up the dollar, and cause the trade deficit, which is in effect how foreigners send us factories which they would rather build here than in their own countries.

America borrowed cheaply from the world and spent it on consumption rather than investment, exactly as Greece did.

  1. John H. Cochrane In sum, spurred on by the federal government (in many ways), the US borrowed a huge amount from foreigners at very low rates, and went on a consumption binge. Sooner or later we have to pay it back, or we go though the wrenching adjustment of a debt crisis. grumpy-economist.com

    Economist at the Hoover Institution

    In sum, spurred on by the federal government (in many ways), the US borrowed a huge amount from foreigners at very low rates, and went on a consumption binge. Sooner or later we have to pay it back, or we go though the wrenching adjustment of a debt crisis.

Cutting off trade with tariffs would force a huge interest-rate spike and probably a debt crisis, because the budget deficit would have to be financed at home.

  1. John H. Cochrane But the spike in interest rates require to do this would be huge. And the trade shock will cause a sharp recession, or worse, putting even more stress on the budget. A debt crisis is likely along the way as the US finds it impossible to roll over debt. grumpy-economist.com

    Economist at the Hoover Institution

    But the spike in interest rates require to do this would be huge. And the trade shock will cause a sharp recession, or worse, putting even more stress on the budget. A debt crisis is likely along the way as the US finds it impossible to roll over debt.

The cure for the trade deficit is to tax consumption instead of saving and investment, and to stop borrowing to fund consumption.

  1. John H. Cochrane Cure the disease, not the symptoms. Reform taxes to tax consumption, not saving and investment. Stop funneling borrowed money to consumption. grumpy-economist.com

    Economist at the Hoover Institution

    Cure the disease, not the symptoms. Reform taxes to tax consumption, not saving and investment. Stop funneling borrowed money to consumption.

A viewour reading

Prices move through a supply chain slowly, which is why nobody has felt it yet

3 claims filed here, newest first — each in the words of whoever said it.

Customers leave faster when prices rise than they come back when prices fall, which is why sellers hold prices as long as they can.

  1. John H. Cochrane I suspect higher prices make people leave more quickly than lower prices make them come. grumpy-economist.com

    Economist at the Hoover Institution

    I suspect higher prices make people leave more quickly than lower prices make them come.

The price level behaves as the aggregate of mostly backward-looking decisions rather than as an asset price, except during hyperinflation, so expected future primary balances barely affect it today.

  1. Olivier Blanchard I believe that, except in times of hyperinflation, the price level does not behave as an asset price but as the aggregate of billions of mostly backward-looking decisions, and that expectations of future primary balances have little effect on the price level today. direct.mit.edu

    Economist; former chief economist of the International Monetary Fund

    I believe that, except in times of hyperinflation, the price level does not behave as an asset price but as the aggregate of billions of mostly backward-looking decisions, and that expectations of future primary balances have little effect on the price level today.

A viewour reading

Protection costs something, and it is counted in the wrong column

4 claims filed here, newest first — each in the words of whoever said it.

High electricity prices are what is killing European industrial competitiveness.

  1. John H. Cochrane The average European and UK voter, once he or she moves on from immigration, will notice how Europe and the UK have made energy unaffordable, stopped its growth grumpy-economist.com

    Economist at the Hoover Institution

    The average European and UK voter, once he or she moves on from immigration, will notice how Europe and the UK have made energy unaffordable, stopped its growth
  2. Hannah Ritchie Another factor that is killing Europe’s competitiveness — not just for batteries but for many industrial products — is the high electricity costs. sustainabilitybynumbers.com

    Data scientist at Our World in Data and author of Not the End of the World

    Another factor that is killing Europe’s competitiveness — not just for batteries but for many industrial products — is the high electricity costs.

A country cannot fund its own industrial strategy and call the same policy cheating when China does it.

  1. Hannah Ritchie But you cannot support these programs while calling out China for “cheating” for doing the same. sustainabilitybynumbers.com

    Data scientist at Our World in Data and author of Not the End of the World

    But you cannot support these programs while calling out China for “cheating” for doing the same.

Tariffs on Chinese clean energy reduce the total number of clean-energy jobs, because most of those jobs are in deployment rather than manufacturing.

  1. Hannah Ritchie That’s because most clean energy jobs are in deployment and maintenance rather than manufacturing, and since higher costs slow down the rollout of renewables, increasing prices reduces the total number of people working in clean energy (even if the number working in manufacturing increases). sustainabilitybynumbers.com

    Data scientist at Our World in Data and author of Not the End of the World

    That’s because most clean energy jobs are in deployment and maintenance rather than manufacturing, and since higher costs slow down the rollout of renewables, increasing prices reduces the total number of people working in clean energy (even if the number working in manufacturing increases).

Europe cannot keep the world's strictest environmental and social rules, invest less than its competitors and run a more naive trade policy, and still expect to create jobs.

  1. Emmanuel Macron We cannot sustain the most stringent environmental and social norms, invest less than our competitors, have a more naive trade policy than them and think that we will continue to generate jobs. This no longer holds together. elysee.fr

    President of the French Republic since 2017

    We cannot sustain the most stringent environmental and social norms, invest less than our competitors, have a more naive trade policy than them and think that we will continue to generate jobs. This no longer holds together.

Where the claims collide

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Cochrane says the right answer is unilateral free trade and that the rest is explaining why the objections fail. Macron says Europe cannot run a more naive trade policy than its competitors and still expect to create jobs, which is the objection stated as a policy. One of them is describing the other as naive.

Macron says Europe cannot run a more naive trade policy than its competitors and still expect to create jobs. Ritchie says tariffs on Chinese clean energy cut the total number of clean-energy jobs, because most of them are in deployment rather than manufacturing and higher prices slow the rollout. Both are counting jobs, and they count them in opposite directions.

The predicted interest-rate spike follows only if the trade deficit is the capital surplus seen from the other side. If foreigners are not financing the budget deficit by buying American assets, closing the trade gap does not force domestic savings to replace them.

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