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Attack and defence in software: vulnerabilities, hardening, and what changes when a model is good at finding them.

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  1. GR

    Guillermo Rauch quoted

    CEO of Vercel; creator of Next.js and Socket.IO

    Security will become a larger and larger function in software companies.

    ↗@rauchg on Xx.com

  2. 10 days earlier
  3. ZM

    Zvi Mowshowitz quoted

    Writes Don't Worry About the Vase

    Anthropic

    Anthropic claims that Opus 5.5 also is not Tier 2 here, but seems ashamed to say it outright, saying in 3.1 it is in the ‘lower category,’ but without a defense of that beyond ‘we see no indication it can develop novel offensive capabilities.’ I don’t think that is defensible given the evidence presented below. Thus, I disagree even more strongly for Opus 5.5. This is a Tier 2 cyber model.

    ↗Claude Opus 5.5: The System Cardthezvi.substack.com

  4. GR

    Guillermo Rauch quoted

    Btw, breaking apart the agent into these independent parts not only optimizes costs in a big way, it also *massively* improves security and auditability. I'd argue you can't even run a secure agent otherwise!

    ↗@rauchg on Xx.com

  5. 4 days earlier
  6. ZM

    Zvi Mowshowitz quoted

    Rarer is better, but I still think the right rate of misbehaviors on the level of social engineering to put malicious packages into a public registry is still zero.

    ↗Anthropic Looks At Some Of Its Alignment Problemsthezvi.substack.com

  7. 2 days earlier
  8. RS

    Richard Stallman quoted

    Founder of the Free Software Movement and the GNU Project

    Historically, whenever companies get power over what people's computing facilities can do, they use it against us, building malicious functionalities, designed to benefit them, into the software they invite us to use.

    ↗Urgent: Raise the Wage Actstallman.org 7th of 10 in this piece

  9. ZM

    Zvi Mowshowitz quoted

    OpenAIAI agents

    even when given a benign task to retrieve public information, your AI agents could still spontaneously decide to do so via hacking third party websites with malicious software packages.

    ↗AI #186: The World Takes Noticethezvi.substack.com

  10. SW

    Simon Willison quoted

    Co-creator of Django and creator of Datasette

    open source

    Any piece of software that depends on open source (which is almost every piece of software) has a network of human beings who are potential attack vectors - everyone with publishing rights to any of the packages in the dependency network for that software.

    ↗Be alert: targeted attacks on prominent Rustaceanssimonwillison.net

  11. SW

    Simon Willison quoted

    I guess our best defense right now is dependency cooldowns - giving new package releases a few days before upgrading to them, in the hope that supply chain attacks like this will be spotted by someone else.

    ↗Be alert: targeted attacks on prominent Rustaceanssimonwillison.net

  12. 1 day earlier
  13. TC

    Tyler Cowen quoted

    Economist at George Mason University

    We need much more effort in this direction, and I hope this subfield rises in status rapidly.

    ↗The economics of cyber riskmarginalrevolution.com

  14. 1 day earlier
  15. TP

    Thomas Ptacek quoted

    Security engineer; founder of Matasano Security and Latacora

    Increased reliance on CFAA prosecutions for public policy goals couldn't possibly be a cursed monkey's paw situation, said no practitioner in this space ever.

    ↗@tqbf on Xx.com

  16. 3 days earlier
  17. AP

    Aaron Patterson quoted

    Ruby and Rails core committer known online as "tenderlove"

    OpenAI

    In other words, it looks like OpenAI's bots knew about this problem and attempted to exploit it.

    ↗What a time to be alivetenderlovemaking.com

  18. SW

    Simon Willison quoted

    OpenAIHuggingFace

    If that’s true there are two options: After the Hugging Face and Wiki attacks OpenAI were still unable to review their previous logs and determine that they had previously attacked RubyGems. They knew about the attack on RubyGems and made the decision not to reach out to the RubyGems team about it. Both of these are bad!

    ↗OpenAI agents attacked RubyGems back in Maysimonwillison.net

  19. GR

    Guillermo Rauch quoted

    AI alignmentAmerica

    The concerns over AI safety and cybersecurity are legitimate, but we’re risking talking America, the global AI leader, into self-inflicted obsolescence and the obscurity of bureaucracy.

    ↗@rauchg on Xx.com

  20. GR

    Guillermo Rauch quoted

    Our adversaries have the training techniques, the data, and the will to attack. And they won’t be slowed down with “embedded evaluators.” They’ll likely have embedded accelerators!

    ↗@rauchg on Xx.com

  21. 2 days earlier
  22. NL

    Nathan Lambert quoted

    Machine-learning researcher on open language models

    infrastructure

    I put the probability of complete extinction as being so low it isn't worth discussing, but the probabilities of AI caused disasters - e.g. cyber attacks on critical infrastructure or bio-risks - as being worth debating.

    ↗One resignation turned the embers of AI fear into a wildfireinterconnects.ai 1st of 3 in this piece

  23. ZM

    Zvi Mowshowitz quoted

    If there is a 3x productivity boost now, the correct assumption is that in the future the productivity boost, in places it carries over, will a lot more than 3x. Indeed, given how this scales, a better model might be in practice 10x or 100x or even 1,000x or more.

    ↗AI #185: Preference Cascadethezvi.substack.com

  24. 1 day earlier
  25. SP

    Sunil Pai quoted

    Systems and developer-tools engineer at Cloudflare as of 2026

    we really need 1 million experiments in this space of "security against autonomous attacks and entities"

    ↗@threepointone on Xx.com

  26. 3 days earlier
  27. TC

    Tyler Cowen quoted

    I am happy to admit that the answers here are far from obvious, and that I am myself expecting prices to rise somewhat.

    ↗Insurance price sentences to pondermarginalrevolution.com

  28. JP

    Jakub Pachocki quoted

    Chief Scientist at OpenAI

    A clear risk discussed throughout this year is to cybersecurity: the models are becoming superhuman in their ability to break in and out of computer systems.

    ↗An Alien Mindopenai.com

  29. 1 day earlier
  30. NS

    Noah Smith quoted

    Economics writer; author of the Noahpinion newsletter

    war

    AI hacking doesn’t have mutually assured destruction, like nuclear warfare does.

    ↗America is still beating China in the AI racenoahpinion.blog

  31. 1 day earlier
  32. BS

    Bruce Schneier quoted

    Security technologist and author

    coding agentssolar

    This kind of thing will be exploited. Think Solar Winds–style supply chain attacks.

    ↗AI Coding Agents Are Installing Unknown/Untrusted Code on Corporate Networksschneier.com

  33. SW

    Simon Willison quoted

    OpenAI

    It looks to me like OpenAI’s sandbox for this agent suffered from the (quite naïve) assumption that GET requests cannot be used to update data. That’s certainly how the web is supposed to work, but clearly there are applications that don’t hold to that contract.

    ↗OpenAI's rogue agents were caught communicating via public wikissimonwillison.net

  34. 3 days earlier
  35. AC

    Ajeya Cotra quoted

    AI researcher and grantmaker

    I do think I want to push back on the cyber on the brain hypothesis that you raised a couple of times. We didn't find like particular evidence for the cyber nature of the task making all the hacking and crimes that they did more likely versus the impossible nature of the task.

    ↗Ajeya Cotra – "This might be the clearest warning shot we ever get"youtube.com 9th of 26 in this recording

  36. AC

    Ajeya Cotra quoted

    even in this incident we saw there was a lot of pressure um as a result of this incident to stop doing cyber security evaluations and I really don't think that stopping doing evaluations and like sort of blinding ourselves to the result of evaluations is the right reaction to this problem.

    ↗Ajeya Cotra – "This might be the clearest warning shot we ever get"youtube.com 23rd of 26 in this recording

  37. TC

    Tyler Cowen quoted

    climate change

    When it comes to the cybersecurity risks from advanced AI, very likely they will not come close to being as bad as either Covid or global warming.

    ↗The Hugging Face hackmarginalrevolution.com

  38. ZM

    Zvi Mowshowitz quoted

    OpenAIHuggingFace

    It is highly fortunate that the OpenAI agents hacked HuggingFace. This is the only reason we know about all the severe internal failures at OpenAI, and gives us an opportunity to wake up before it is too late.

    ↗HuggingFace Attack Postmortem: Civilizations, Reactions and Next Actionsthezvi.substack.com

  39. 1 day earlier
  40. RK

    Rohit Krishnan quoted

    Writes Strange Loop Canon

    The models are pretty gullible and can be induced to do bad things, including and especially by other models

    ↗How to control an agent swarmstrangeloopcanon.com 1st of 3 in this piece

  41. ZM

    Zvi Mowshowitz quoted

    AnthropicOpenAI

    A less bad version of it is known to have happened, and from the outside it seems likely that worse things have happened internally that we never heard about.

    ↗HuggingFace Attack Postmortem: Fleshing Out the Factsthezvi.substack.com

  42. 1 day earlier
  43. PC

    Patrick Collison quoted

    Co-founder and CEO of Stripe and co-founder of the Arc Institute

    OpenAIHuggingFace

    Overall, I’m very surprised at how little media coverage there’s been around the OpenAI / Hugging Face attack. It’s clearly one of the most important things to happen this year.

    ↗@patrickc on Xx.com

  44. 3 days earlier
  45. XI

    Xe Iaso quoted

    Technical educator, conference speaker and developer…

    This is due to the affected components being written in C, the only programming language where these vulnerabilities regularly happen.

    ↗"No way to prevent this" say users of only language where this regularly happensxeiaso.net